First of all, I would like to say that this is just a [b]theory[/b] based in the new interesting facts about Rasputin that Saladin brought during some quests ([i]considering the relation between Shiro-4 and the Iron Lord and some Rasputin grimoire references[/i])... If you don't like this kind of stuff, probably you are in the [u]wrong[/u] post.
Riso of Iron introduced a new character called Shiro-4, an Exo that works for Vanguard and Cayde-6 against the fallen but never was mentioned before... Strange isn't?
Sometime ago, I've watched a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2BLQ64p9fU) talking about the original story of Destiny (based in a article wrote by Kotaku: http://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731) and the changes that were made. Basically, in the original story the warmind Rasputin was an Exo kidnapped by the Hive and Osiris and the Queen requested a guardian (you) to rescue him. The Exo Warmind that appears in a concept art as confirmed by some Bungie sources is the Rasputin "body" and this concept is very similar to Shiro-4 (without the hood) but this is not enough to confirm nothing okay?
In the grimoire card "Ghost Fragment: Rasputin" Cayde-6 tells that his old friend Andal thought that he was the Rasputin itself (maybe, because Rasputin was an exo too) and Cayde-6 confirms that he knows Rasputin better than everyone. Don't forget that Shiro-4 "works" for Cayde that seems to be the only relation between Shiro-4 and the Vanguard.
During one of the Rise of Iron quests, Saladin talks about his experience during the fight against the fallen and SIVA and confirms that for him, Rasputin is now more than what the Vanguard consider, is more than just a warmind... it seems to be alive! Did you notice that Shiro-4 is the only Vanguard member in the Iron temple? Did you notice that he knows about SIVA even without any information in the Vanguard data-base (as your ghost confirms during a quest)?
And you? Do you think that Shiro-4 in only a NPC without purpose or that he could hide more than that?
[spoiler]Rise of Iron could be a kind of introduction for a new DLC that is going to adjust the current situation to the story that was lost in the beginning... This adjustment will not be made in the whole story but the most important points maybe and who knows Nokris don't came for his father, takes Rasputin and the Queen rises once again with Osiris as her ally to rescue the only one that fought the darkness in affective way? (Just kidding)[/spoiler]
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I appreciate the effort you put into this and it is a decent theory. And I do believe that Shiro's model is that of the old Rasputin from the cut content. However, the Kotaku article makes multiple references to characters being reused and repurposed after the scrapping of the original story. This makes me think they just barely altered the old model and renamed it Shiro.
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"Why does everyone hate #lore?"
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He doesn't speak Russian.
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Edited by turdferguson00: 10/14/2016 12:16:31 AMShiro is caydes protege. He's a scout outside the city as cayde has responsibilities to the vanguard
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Bungie's introduced a massive array of story puzzle pieces. It is incomplete, and what is there is scattered. So we won't know what's up until we have more pieces and we see how they fit together.
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[b][i][u]when will you people learn[/u][/i][/b] Exos are [i]separate[/i] from Rasputin. I'm sure many people other than me are sick and tired of people thinking every exo is Rasputin.
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Banshee 44 dude
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No child, shiro is just shiro. Back to the books.
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I was kinda hoping Rasputin would be the raid boss or something.
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I literally laughed out loud when I read the title.
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Shiro is a person. Rasputin is an AI warmind.
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There was a cat that really was gone...
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Edited by CjDipz: 10/13/2016 1:51:47 PMOr or....they couldn't afford or Nathan Fillion was to busy to come in and do voice acting Cause to me shiro-4 is just a cayde-6 rip off and you're right he did come out of no where cause it would make more sense If cayde played that roll
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Maybe [i]I'm[/i] Rasputin and I just don't know it
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Edited by steadyhand08: 10/12/2016 11:11:07 AMNo.... The moment you need stretch to original story your theory needs to be binned. Most your questions on sherio can be explained with simply common sense and not twisting the context of what people are saying Sorry to be harsh but stuff like this is killing this section of the fourm
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🤔 good theory
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Pretty much all of what you just said applies to Cayde as well...
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I thought they couldn't afford to have cayde do voice overs. So they got a new voice. Which is what also happened to the stranger.
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Why does everybody think that every exo is rasputin? Just because they're robotic? You know what you guys are?? Racists! [spoiler]Incase you didn't notice, that was satire, but anyways on to the real topic... The exos were made in this HUGE facility or factory of some sorts on Europa. What backs up this theory is Cayde-6's backstory, he talked about him having debts with Clovis Bray and they turned him into an exo (with his consent of course) to repay them, he was like the main object of an experiment i think. So he remembers waking up on a a place he was unfamiliar with (Europa) and had a view to another world (Jupiter) and standing in front of this huge dark creature and it talking to him, which at first i thought was an embodiment of the Darkness, but now i speculate it was an Ahamkara because they inhabit the Jovian worlds.[/spoiler]
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Hey guys. Its yo boi realconspiracy here, with another truth. You know how Rasputin is a robot thing? Well guess what else is a robot thing? Thats right, the [b][u]SWEEPER BOTS[/u][/b] The connections are too easy to miss, look at it! They both do nothing, but the sweeper bots are at key positions to listen to the Citya plans, becaus like we all know, Rasputin is the Darkness and we are actually Thrall. [spoiler]seriously stop with these moonshine-theories[/spoiler]
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Nah he's Talos.
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Shiro is Caydes future replacement for when they inevitably kill off cayde
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Edited by Qwerty: 10/10/2016 11:12:45 PMYou could kind of consider all Exos as a small part of Rasputin, but it is not the same. The Rasputin/Exo assets are there, but we will know when we see him. Raspy isn't hiding amongst us - his armies are.
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Wouldn't somebody just tell us, hey by the way, that exo over there is Rasputin. You know, the guy who keeps dropping those blasted warsats everywhere.
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oh my god, again with this shit... first Cayde, then banshee, now Shiro. it's essentially like that episode in spongebob. you know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iyOkFLuoBc that one
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Shiro -4 is not Rasputin Evidence from the Sleeper Stimulate quest suggests Banshee- 44 is unconsciously serving Rasputin.