The heck you think this is? Some sorta game?!
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We have that Bungie scrub Jon W. to thank for not separating the two.
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This is why I didn't buy rise of iron.
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Agreed. I think they should bring hand cannons up a bit in PVE to make them more useful. I think they're doing fine in PVP, but PVE could use a little help.
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This is my number one issue. I don't use shotguns or snipers nearly as much in PVE and it's disappointing.
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It's time time to stop the nerfs!
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Edited by Angelis101: 9/26/2016 4:24:40 PMI've never noticed a PvP nerf affecting my PvE gameplay. Typically the better players are in the crucible anyways. The ones that complain the most are the ones that struggle to adapt. I'd hate to see how they react to a mechanics overhaul. If it's OP in PvP that means it's exceptionally abuseable in PvE and that just leads to degenerate gameplay. There are a few exceptions to this such as shoulder charge, firebolts, and throwing knives. Changing these doesn't affect generic PvE and most certainly doesn't affect raiding. But most changes are for the better such as the double shade step, trip mines not sticking, blink recovery. You should be punished for making a mistake and pay more attention. Even the ammo nerf is negligible because you have synths, insane amounts of ammo drops, and you should be managing your special and heavy ammo. You shouldn't infinitely spamming special and heavy ammo. This is coming from a day 1, beta vet who has done everything there is to do just about. Quit whining.
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We have been asking them to do this since the first auto rifle nerf that ruined them.
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Yeeeeeeeessss
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Edited by HyperVigiIant: 9/27/2016 8:53:55 AMThey do it to increase the grind. Same reasons they keep reducing ammo reserves. They want you to play the game for as long as humanly possible.
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Nerf [spoiler]fusions[/spoiler]
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SEPERATE PVP NERFS FROM PVE YOU IDIOTS ALL OF BUNGIE SHOULD BE SHOT
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Considering they're not separated for very good reasons, I don't think you're qualified to call others fools.
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Agreed, hand cannons went from being a good choice to basically useless in pve
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Edited by oscarthepooch: 9/27/2016 12:42:16 AMI've been on since day one and I've been saying this for nearly two years. Trust me, Bungie cares way more about the "Hardcore" crowd then they do the rest of us. That being said the PVE damage buffs are quite nice, most guns seem to work great of right out of the box. Plus PVP and twitch streamers are what makes this game it's money, so it's only reasonable for Bungie to follow those dollar signs.
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Do you always pm people you can't handle arguing with things like "reported and muted" and then "bye"? Lmao GG mate.
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Make PvE ammo reserves actually carry extra ammo.
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I do believe that they should be separate in some situations, but I think it's harder for bungie to that and thus, patches take longer
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yours is a speech is a player pvp...because most PvE players would want a different balance? an example? decrease transportable ammunition based on PvE would never served...the nerf to automatic same thing...like 90% of other nerf to the various weapons... And programmatically would not be so impossible ... the pve does not need frequent bilanciamente what pvp
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Hell yes!!!!!!
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Edited by A Wild Zebra: 9/26/2016 12:39:43 AMThe title took me back to the episode of Hollywood Squares with Gilbert Gottfried. Best post of the day just for that. [spoiler]http://youtu.be/WM-3QDQGmHo[/spoiler]
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Or dont do nerfs at all :D