Said he was awesome in the crucible so most like he wasn't a titan.

We already know a warlock who got corrupted by the hive, and he definitely didn't go around murdering people with a handcannon. Warlocks are classier than that. Toland went into the ascendant realm, Osiris went into the Vex gate system. I feel like Yor doesn't fit the psych profile of a warlock. Also, a titan would probably just smash some skulls in rather than use some poisoned bullets.

Hunter

The Dredgen referred to in the new cards is not Dredgen Yor. It seems he gained some followers who use Dredgen like a title. [spoiler] according to those grimoire cards these new Dredgen have also created a new Thorn ( Bungie's way to explain year 3 Thorn)[/spoiler]

Hey hey! It's you again! [spoiler]before we get into this you should know that Dredgen wasn't the only corrupt guardian, the cathedral of dusk card points out there were more. Furthermore, the card states Azzir was in "holy ground". Maybe that's the spot where she performed the ritual on Dredgen?[/spoiler] Alright I'll give you that point about Azzir only because I haven't collected [b]all[/b] of his grimoire cards so I'm assuming you know more about him than me. My point about him being a hunter still stands but I'm now going to start from the beginning for you to really understand not only why he's a hunter but why he can't be another class. Ok let's go. People said Warlock since his Grimoire card is that of a Warlock with Thorn, because the other two Guardians who studied the Darkness were Warlocks, and because the cloak in the game doesn't actually say it was his. It could just be based off his gear or cut from a Warlock's robes. However, I am convinced he was a Hunter. The reasons being are: 1. The cloak despite what I said before (since the Paganini theory is stilll just a theory); and the rose. Now I know what you said but hear me out. Why would a Titan or a Warlock carry an abject that reminded them of someone so evil? Especially Titans -them being the class that stand for honour and dignity- why would they want to parade the deeds of a murderer? Hunters on the other hand respect great deeds and accomplishments and while Dredgen did murder a lot of guardians he also used to rule the crucible and back in the first days of the city when the walls were still being raised by the Titans, it was hunters who were tasked with "scouting" out into the wild to find and protect the remnants of society. An example of this would be Jared who came to Shins settlement. 2. His whole persona reading that of a Hunter who roams the Frontier. His Grimoire passages and the ones he's included in talk of his hand cannon, a common weapon of a Hunter, and of other Hunters he was always around. 3. Unlike the Warlocks who mostly studied the Darkness, Yor actually took a more active approach to it and let it consume him. He wasn't studying it to understand it, but rather letting it fill him so he could have its power. Perhaps that's how he thought he could understand it. Maybe he hoped to control it and hold it at bay, like a martyr finding a way to defeat the enemy and using their own being as a catalyst for that test. What he was before though he was not after. 4. The biggest point, and, honestly, the one that convinced me, is Thorn. Sure, it's a hand cannon which are most typically alined with Hunters, but that doesn't mean other classes can't use them. No, it was something on Thorn that I stupidly missed for too long. The sights. Well, just below them. The above image is not me showing the thorns the gun fires, but the triangle. Some of you may recognise it, but it's an older symbol from before Destiny release. It's the original symbol of the Hunters, as still seen here. https://www.bungie.net/img/profile/avatars/group/avatars_groups_hunter.jpg Thoughts?

I'd like to point out that Pahanin was always insane, but yeah it was probably his cloak. Otherwise why would it mention him. They could have slipped it into one of the cards and the cloak could have said "Before his rampage, Dredgen Yor ruled the Crucible", but it specifically mentions Pahanin. As for the Rose artifact, Hunter Artifacts show off Hunter accomplishments and fascination and can be described basically as "Hunters! Yeah!" If Yor was a Hunter, a Hunter keeping the Rose as an artifact would be like a Jewish German keeping a Na[b][/b]zi dagger. It doesn't fit. The reason it's a Hunter artifact is because a Hunter killed him.

Actually, the first Risen to be called Guardians were the Iron Lords, I think this was after Azzirs time

What really spikes my interest is dredgen yor's rose. What could rezyl have that would baba "rose" and "burn brightly" the only thing I can think of is[spoiler]his ghost[/spoiler] Think about it, if he's the first guardian, than he had the first ghost, first gift of burning light from the traveler. But just speculation so idk tho

Does everyone just forget about the dead titan on the moon. I mean come on guys it's not hard

He was a hunter. Period.