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Edited by A Rising Wind:
9/17/2016 7:17:08 PM
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Patient E is Cayde (Owl Sector)
The 4th log entry under Glory 2.1 is a debrief from Owl Sector member Shun to Ikora Rey on what they are finding in the old Golden Age research notes at the Dust Palace.
It talks about a golden age patient, Patient E.
Here is what is says:
[spoiler] Patient E, Jun, has been uncooperative. Laughed unpleasantly when I told him he would receive Glory 2.1.
"You're running prototypes in parallel because it's cheaper and it's faster, he said. No ethics board on earth would approve. But I don't have a choice. I'm neck deep in debt to Clovis Bray."
I wish we would have tweaked these elixirs to modify disposition.[/spoiler]
In caydes journal (link http://www.destinypedia.com/Cayde's_Treasure_Island_Book ), we know that Cayde owed Clovis bray a big debt as a human, and it would be forgiven. Next we know, Cayde is an exo. It is heavily implied Cayde agreed to the exo experiment to pay that debt, which matches the spoiler above.
So Patient E could easily be Cayde, before he was an exo. Which would put his name as Jun.
It is also possible it is another individual in a similar situation as Cayde, but heavily implies it's Cayde because the personality in the spoiler above is very much like his.
This links Willa Bray, Dr Shirazi, Cayde and the exo creation program. Which makes sense because when people glitched into the lab below the dust palace, exo science is written all over the walls.
So whatever we are being infected by appears to be a byproduct of the technology that created exos
EDIT: One more little part of that same record. Shun states "this kind of coercion isn't a known Clovis Bray practice." Meaning coercing people to be experimented on to pay a debt. To which Ikora responds "Not in the [i]books[/i] you read perhaps."
Nice little nod to the book, caydes Treasure island book (aka caydes journal) which I linked above in which he did document being coerced by Clovis to pay his debt.
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Same kind of companie but you talk about exos as if they are different from humans. Exos are just vessels. Exos are metal humans. I mean you know that.
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55 RepliesGUYS! If you have the "Art of Destiny" book, it shows concept art from [i]before Exos were added to the game[/i], and the Hunter Vanguard is a Human named Jun! We have pictures of Human Cayde!
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2 RepliesI can't wait for this owl sector stuff to end. I want my head to look normal
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And patient C is... ME?!?
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19 RepliesHuh, I always wondered where that Sniper bastard went after Reach.
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9 RepliesEdited by TheSuMan: 9/19/2016 2:47:24 AMActually, the exos were created by Dr. Shim and his coworkers in Venus. After a while, their research group evolved into what is now the Future War Cult
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2 RepliesMaybe the EXO program is directly related to the nanoparticles program or maybe even siva.
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1 ReplyThis does sound plausible, and would be pretty awesome if it were the case. However, there's something that you've missed, I think. The infection has gone on to be noted as something to improve the lives of colonists of a presumed upcoming colony. It has been a while since I've looked at the lore behind the creation of Exos, but I'm pretty sure they weren't made to improve colonization.
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5 RepliesWould anyone like to give me all five buffs I'm on x1 gt is the same as my name
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3 RepliesHere's is a thought. I've just recently started to read through the grimoire. What if one of these patients becomes a awoken? Maybe the human one?
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4 RepliesI feel like Dr. Shirazi was mentioned somewhere before all this happened. I can't remember what, but the name sounds familiar, whether it was heard through dialogue or in grimoire. Anyone feel the same?
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3 RepliesBut cayde cant be Jun. He HAS to be Buck
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2 RepliesI was about to say cayde would remember but he wouldnt because he is cayde 6. His mind has been wiped several times. So this is possible. Cayde could be looking at his own past and not even know it
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6 RepliesOWL. Others Without Light
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How do I get to the Owl sector descriptions of the spaceaids?
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Clovis Bray has a connection to SIVA, yes? So could SIVA be what was going down during the Exo programs?
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9 RepliesAs the healthy population dwindles. I hope to be the last guardian free of infection
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Jun was also the sniper Spartan in halo reach.... I bet it's a nod back to that.
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[quote]The 4th log entry under Glory 2.1 is a debrief from Owl Sector member Shun to Ikora Rey on what they are finding in the old Golden Age research notes at the Dust Palace. It talks about a golden age patient, Patient E. Here is what is says: [spoiler] Patient E, Jun, has been uncooperative. Laughed unpleasantly when I told him he would receive Glory 2.1. "You're running prototypes in parallel because it's cheaper and it's faster, he said. No ethics board on earth would approve. But I don't have a choice. I'm neck deep in debt to Clovis Bray." I wish we would have tweaked these elixirs to modify disposition.[/spoiler] In caydes journal (link http://www.destinypedia.com/Cayde's_Treasure_Island_Book ), we know that Cayde owed Clovis bray a big debt as a human, and it would be forgiven. Next we know, Cayde is an exo. It is heavily implied Cayde agreed to the exo experiment to pay that debt, which matches the spoiler above. So Patient E could easily be Cayde, before he was an exo. Which would put his name as Jun. It is also possible it is another individual in a similar situation as Cayde, but heavily implies it's Cayde because the personality in the spoiler above is very much like his. This links Willa Bray, Dr Shirazi, Cayde and the exo creation program. Which makes sense because when people glitched into the lab below the dust palace, exo science is written all over the walls. So whatever we are being infected by appears to be a byproduct of the technology that created exos EDIT: One more little part of that same record. Shun states "this kind of coercion isn't a known Clovis Bray practice." Meaning coercing people to be experimented on to pay a debt. To which Ikora responds "Not in the [i]books[/i] you read perhaps." Nice little nod to the book, caydes Treasure island book (aka caydes journal) which I linked above in which he did document being coerced by Clovis to pay his debt.[/quote] That's what happend to the singer from reach he was my favorite character so is cayde
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Annnnnnd i'm still free from infection :)
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9 RepliesI don't know much of cayde's back story, but did read the owl sector transcripts. Why wouldn't he say "hey I know about this stuff I was one of the tests way back when"?
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1 ReplyIkora is patient 0 she is bald
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9 RepliesHoly shit its Jason Bourne.
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2 RepliesDoes this loosely imply that Shirazi could be the woman Cayde loved? Perhaps even the Exo Stranger?
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I like this theory. But theres another one where cayde could've been rasputin and he created the artificial intelligence aka the exo. and during the war rasputin was in he died as a human and came back as an exo and he long forgotten who he was. And i believe rasputin also had a wife who died and came back and she as well as forgotten herself. But they know about their love for each other just cant seem to find one another as well. And she could've been the stranger we meet in the story. But its only a theory and i did enjoy that one as well as yours.
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1 ReplySooo..... was cade an exo before he was given the injection. ..or did he become one after?
