Id like to start this by saying zen meteor has been my go to sniper since its release. It shares the highest impact archetype like black spindle as many of you may know. After the recent nerfs to sniper damage I thought I would be unaffected because my precious meteor was not in the same impact archetype as 1k stare. I couldnt be more wrong. I will like to share with you my findings:
Pre-Nerf Zen Meteor:
-Headshot Damage (PvP): 334 Damage to the head with an unseeable amount of explosive round damage.
-Bodyshot Damage (PvP): 84(regular)+84(explosive) = 164 Total Damage
Post-Nerf Zen Meteor:
-Headshot Damage (PvP): 303 Damage to the head with an unseeable amount of explosive round damage.
-BodyShot Damage (PvP): 76+76= 152 Total Damage
Post Nerf Damage Reduction:
-9.3% Headshot Damage Nerf
-9.52% Bodshot Damage Nerf
-Playtesting against a max armor (without ram) non-radiant skin sunsinger shows that zen meteor can no longer 1 shot kill supers.
-Considering that the 1k stare archetype only recieved 6% damage nerf this is significant. Only black spindle (currently) can reliably one shot supers.
Bungie completely neglected to mention the fact that this nerf was implemented ON A -blam!-ING EXOTIC. And that alone is unacceptable. Enough with the stealth nerfs already we are sick of this shit.
Edit: Before I hear anymore people saying that it is the 1k stare archetype take your time to watch this video: https://youtu.be/wXbn1c33kzA
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Zen meteor is terrible in PVP and PVE [spoiler]i only like it because it reminds me of dominos pizza[/spoiler]
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Just so you know 84+84= 168... down vote learn math
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And black hammer can instakill supers too. This zen nerf didnt impact me anyway. Because xbox isnt getting it anyway.
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I first noticed this yesterday when fighting Oryx (for the ABSOLUTE last time) I used to be able to take out knights with one precision shot. Now it leaves a sliver of life. I was looking for something on this subject but there was nothing. Until this post. I knew I wasn't the only one. This is highly disappointing. I loved Zen Meteor. But now it really is useless.
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Edited by mpuchar: 9/14/2016 9:47:18 PMI thought bungie said they were leaving the black spindle and zen meteor alone, and "that family of exotic Sniper Rifles should be your key tool to take down Supers" I understand the logic in that if you want both a high impact sniper WITH high aim assist, it should take up an exotic slot... so why nerf it?
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That video doesnt apply in pvp. It's pretty well tested that explosive rounds gives you bonus damage in pve but not in pvp.
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Never used it anyway
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Look i don't care [spoiler]xbox is better than ps4 anyway and exclusives ruin games like destiny[/spoiler]
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It was nerfed along with other snipers
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We are starting yr3, and this is the same thing they did to ice breaker before it was left behind, when you all those new weapons come out nobody will even care untill close to when D2 comes out
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How does it affect PvE currently?
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Well that's some BS
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Yeah would be nice if a Dev could confirm if this is nerf was intentional or not, might have made a mistake, my fav exotic in the game, need to bump this thread or tweet deej.
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They nerfed snipers as a whole
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They had a blanket nerf of snipers.
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Zen has same impact as spindle. How is it 1k archetype?
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That gun already was one of the worst exotics in the game lol
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Am I only one that noticed they nerfed the impact on Eirenne? The impact stat in game puts it in the 1kStare/Longbow tier. And yes the Zen Meteor only hits for a little above 300 on a crit even though the impact stat is the same as Black Spindle.
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What stealth nerf? Reading the patch notes, the sniper rifle section clearly states "middle-high impact of snipers reduced by 6.95%" Guess what archetype Zen meteor is.....
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Zen meteor has the same archeotype as the 1k-stare and that archeotype got nerfed. It used to do 418 critical damage since the explosive rounds always add 1 more damage but after the nerf it only does critical 389dmg and normal snipers of the same archeotype does critical 388dmg That's it whole sniper archeotype got nerfed and zen belongs in to that archeotype so naturally the nerf includes it too. So no longer can you one shot from supers with that archeotype of snipers, only the highest impact can, the black spindle impact. Efrideet impact everyone remembers efrideets spear?;)
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You do realize that the Explosive Rounds completely screws up the impact? Explosive Rounds takes away some initial impact and the adds even more damage than before in explosive damage. Essentially, Explosive Rounds dramatically increases the damage of each shot than without. That Impact Stat is correct that it does more damage than 1000yrd, but the archetype is still the same as shown by the ROF. You also have to put the Exotic Perk into view. This massive damage also accounts for the weapons overall Impact Stat.
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LOLOLOL right after cosmo went ahead and amended the patch notes with the SC nerf... and made a staunch statement about how the sandbox team NEVER makes stealth nerfs? Baahahahahaha HOW DO YOUR OWN WORDS TASTE THO?
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But, it does more damage than 1KYS, it's in the same archetype it's just more powerful.
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Ah I love it when exclusives are gated for two years! Those exotics will be nerfed into uselessness once Xbox gets them and nobody will bother anyways because of Destiny 2! At least we have mod support so you can bite me.
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Well I don't have one so.... So