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Edited by Azure: 9/5/2016 3:55:03 PM
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UNIVERSAL REMOTE NEEDS NERFING RIGHT NOW....jk, what the hell is wrong with you people?

Everybody is complaining about the Universal Remote, saying the following things: * You never run out of ammo for it in crucible because it's a primary. * It has too much range! * You can equip a Sniper Rifle in your special slot and that makes you OP! All 3 of these things are stupid complaints, and I'll tell you why. You say it never runs out of ammo? Well neither does literally any other shotgun provided you have the common sense to pick up special ammo every couple of lives. I mainly use my shotgun in PVP, and I rarely ever run out of ammo. If I do, I just switch to my primary real quick and go get more. It's easy af. If anything, the reserve ammo of this weapon needs increasing for PVE use. You complain about it's range, but that's the weapon's main feature. Yes, that makes it a pain, but it is not gamebreaking. Yes, I've been killed by this weapon in the past, but not once have I ever lost a game purely because someone else was using it. As for someone equipping a sniper to go with it, that means they have short and long ranges covered. Just use a mid range weapon (you know, like pretty much ANY decent primary) and as long as your aim is good they'll be almost completely defenseless. [b]Universal Remote is a good weapon, and it is a pain when someone else kills you with it, but like anything, it can be reliably countered. Stop asking for a nerf, it doesn't need one.[/b] [b]EDIT:[/b] Okay, so a lot of people are saying that due to lack of staggering whilst aiming under fire with snipers, they are effective at medium and close range. Even if this was a viable tactic (which it isn't), that is not the fault of the Universal Remote. Complain to Bungie about staggering on Snipers instead. Also, some people say that anything capable of 1 shotting shouldn't be able to be used all the time. Well you know what? That exact same argument can be applied to Shoulder Charge, so if we have to put up with that (which I'm fine with) we should put up with Universal Remote as well. Instead of complaining about getting killed by the same weapon, change your loadouts to counter it. It's far from difficult.

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  • The problem isn’t Universal Remote. Never has been the problem and likely never will be the problem. Uni is just the effect of a different problem and those who complain about that gun don’t truly understand what they’re talking about. The big issue here is primary damage and TTK. The issue got worse when pulse rifles were nerfed along with the implementation of Phantom Bullets and bloom on hand cannons. This created a meta that made primaries weak and underused. At this time Mida also came back and you saw an explosion in the guns use. Was it overpowered? Nope, it was just overused because a vacuum was created by nerfing the slow FR high impact pulses that could challenge snipers (red death being the king in this scenario). Since Red Death was nerfed Mida filled in as the only reasonable mid-long range gun that could challenge snipers by providing enough stagger that made it possible to kill them before a double body shot. Think of it like this. If I turn a corner in mid-range and put shots on your face with my mida before you fire your first shot. Your TTK on a double body should not be faster than my TTK. Getting killed by a headshot was still reasonable because it was either lucky, or the sniper was very good and could re-adjust after the stagger. Credit goes to the sniper…… and the lucky headshots, while they occurred, were not frequent enough to make them an issue. Boom, Mida gets nerfed and loses the best perk for a shotgun user. The ability to challenge a sniper at range with his primary. Snipers essentially became more popular. Am I complaining about sniping? Nope. I think they should go back to wear they were before the nerf to snapshot and zoom. But at the same time give players the primaries that can fight them. So you have weak primaries that can no longer challenge snipers right? Well that’s fine, I’ll just pull out my shotgun and use map awareness to close the gap and push the sniper to either run away or fight with a primary (you see how this created a meta the leans towards special and NOT primary?). Annnnnnnnd Eureka!!! You figure it out? That’s why people complain about Uni. Your option to close the distance is no longer a good option. Not only do you have to challenge a shotgun with a shotgun but his shotgun is just better. Not only is his shotgun better but because you were pushing you end up being weaker to the pre-grenade tactic. Which makes it easier for the Uni user to take your shields (with the grenade) and clean you up before you’re in range to pop him. The other option is just to close distance but use your primary!!!! Of course that works but only so many guns are consistent. Mida sometimes but I already talked about those weaknesses. Right now Hawksaw is really the only gun that can challenge at mid-close range. But then again let assume you’re playing against someone who can anticipate you. You might end up with your primary out being rushed by………. Uni!!!! Except in this situation because you were closing the gap it’s easier (and faster) for the Uni user to get into range. Sooooooo that’s where this argument is coming from. What’s going to happen though? Bungie is going to show us a chart that focuses on how much Hawksaw, Mida, and Uni are used…… and nerf those. At which point the PVP community is going to die faster than you’ve ever seen.

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