explain why BF4 and all other games run fine but everything goes to shit as soon as I load into a crucible game
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Games like battlefield 4, gears of war, halo 5 all have dedicated servers unlike Destiny's PVP.
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my point is OP is acting like its not bungies fault, despite the fact that it was them who chose to cheap out on servers and go p2p
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Completely agree. There are things they could do like remove some of the netcode that tries to make the game playable on lousy connections. That's one reason the red bars rule. Another would be to evaluate the lobbies and if someone doesn't meet connectivity requirements then don't enter them into a match.
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or they should just invest into dedicated servers. they wont do that, since they're cheap af, but a man can hope.