Before I start, I would like to thank everyone who participated and put up with my noobish technical skills. We had disagreements along the way, but they were all respectful disagreements. Users in chat asked some interesting questions which I did my best to answer. One offtopie played with me through most of the stream (special thanks to you), and answered what doubtlessly must have felt like strange questions. Also, I was privileged to have a particularly interesting discussion with one of you towards the end of the stream (26:09min on linked video) about helicopters. Specifically, we debated why - if the earth is round and spinning - the ground does not rotate beneath a hovering chopper. While I still think choppers disprove a round earth, the user I debated was knowledgeable and had some compelling questions. Thank you sir.
It is my hope that this weekly stream will become, above all else, a nexus point for honest questions and honest inquiry. I want us all to question [b]why we [i]think[/i] we know what we know.[/b] Only then can we begin to have real knowledge and solid opinions. But remember, you guys make the journey possible: I just ask the questions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItTGALrS08
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huh...
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Edited by Barbatos: 8/16/2016 7:08:34 PM
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Neil sums it up nicely.
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>Destiny Ayy lmao
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It's like I wanna be mean but he's being so nice and respectful
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If the earth is flat then how come it is day and night at different times?
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If the earth is flat how did we have perfect vertical pictures of almost every place on earth?
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It was enjoyable.
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2:41... That was my limit and besides a Jehovah's witness came to the door and I had to discuss that lunacy.
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2 min in and already find a problem with your theory. You say the earth is accelerating upwards at 9.8 m/s and that when we jump, we are just hovering and the earth actually moves up to us. The problem with this is simple. Every bird, bug, airplane, or anything that flies would also have to be moving upwards at 9.8 m/s otherwise the earth would move up to them. So, not only would they be having to fly upwards at 9.8 m/s (approx 22 mph) but also in the lateral or vertical direction of their flightpath. I guarantee you won't have an intelligent response to this conundrum.
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Edited by Barbatos: 8/15/2016 2:24:30 PMThen answer me this, OP.
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If the earth is flat how come I can't see Mount Everest every time I go up in a plane?
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I think you are doing a great job. Making our opinions more solid by inducing healthy debates. I thought you were a troll, now my opinion has changed.
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[quote]why - if the earth is round and spinning - the ground does not rotate beneath a hovering chopper.[/quote] You obviously don't know anything about the topic you are trying to discuss.
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You have took bulshit to another level.
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I proposed a question in the other thread. Why didn't you respond, bud?
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I retain my bias. The planet is neither the shape you prefer it to be, nor will it be precisely a sphere. Think of it as an egg in a womb; the pre-born will try to enter it from all angles. Replace the egg with the beginnings of this world, and the pre-born with varying rocks and space debris, pulled by the cosmic forces. ...That[i] isn't [/i]all I have to say. [spoiler]With numerous factors, the planet's natural shape is a sphere, albeit slightly malformed due to other factors that correlate and are irremovable. To state that the planet is 2-dimensional (hence, flat) or equivalent is to deny the obvious values mentioned here: -Vehicles such as aircraft and boats can travel in the direction of your preferred worldshape's edge and 'appear' on the opposing edge, like in a game of Risk or Pacman. -Due to our scale being so insignificant, we mistake the world as flat. This is but a perspective. Terrain shape also comes into play here. There is no haze, fog, or atmospheric distortion causing this inability to see that other side, merely the shape of the planet; if the atmosphere was 'pulled inward' to block the other side, then wouldn't any boat passing it be thus deprived of organic life due to sudden changes? -The Universal Accelerator cannot function because of how the universe is shaped. The Accelerator has no physical form, no energy source, nor is it some impossibly vast cosmic computer fan that blows us, impossibly so, upward. -Flat-Solar-System planets would be constantly in view and would likely blot out the sun in your cosmic definition. We would've died as a species many times over, if this was so. -If Gravity doesn't exist, then we would have no atmosphere for the atmosphere is comprised of gasses of various elements, pulled by the world's sheer size into it. This also means that objects would try to come at it from all angles, resulting in the not-quite-a-sphere we live on now.[/spoiler]
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Congrats on your first live stream. I dropped in for a bit, even. Good to see you putting up debate in such a way and I wish you luck in future.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqNnUJVcVs
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You can't always trust your senses.
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Of all the planets we have observed in the Cosmos, not one of them is flat. Including Earth.
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Why can't I see Cuba from Key West? The curvature of the Earth.
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So, every heavenly body that we have observed like planets and stars are round. That's a fact. But Earth is a disc?
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Why is it that every other celestial body is round, then? Also, the earth has to be a sphere for night and day to work, because the earth is rotating.