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Obviously not cheating. Don't think people realise how little outright cheating there actually is in destiny. You get a little bit of lag (honestly its not even that bad) and everyones some pro hacker. Also, doesn't hawksaw always fire quicker than most machine guns? I mean its got a faster ROF than most of the high impact LMG's anyway.
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  • what a stupid reply

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  • So why did you make it. If you kept your mouth shut no one would have known what a half wit you are.

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  • Edited by Drakan: 8/9/2016 6:26:26 PM
    reported for abusive language no one has upvoted your reply, have you noticed?

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  • No but its created a little more debate than your pathetic insults. Don't really understand why you felt the need to post anything, but then there's no accounting for stupidity. Maybe next time just think whether anyone actually wants you to throw your two cents in before you open your mouth, cos I guarantee you they don't.

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  • This is unacceptable savagery...

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  • Edited by HiroNakauout007: 8/9/2016 4:53:24 PM
    Looking at your kd I doubt you would run into the cheaters. I'm not trying to bag on your kd by any means (Mine is lower than yours ) but with an avergae 1.0kd you arent gonna run into the cheaters. Cheating isn't worth a 1.0. These people usually have a 1.5 or higher kd. SBMM should prevent you from this. Again I only bring up kd to make a point. When I play by myself I rarely see cheating. I may get thrown in a game midway and see lag, but that's about it. However, when I play with friends who have great, competition worthy kds I always see red bar warriors and other various cheats. It is amazing what some are willing to do to achieve high kds.

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  • I would say you are wrong. Because if someone is good at Destiny, he wont use cheats. If he start using cheats, its because he sucks in this game therefore his 'before cheating' kd is shit. And I dont believe someone would use cheats long enough to change his KD dramaticly (Without getting bored/banned).

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  • Fair assumption, but doubtful. Most don't use their main accounts or even just one account to hack or cheat, so as to not have an account they care about banned. One is less likely to use a Gt they've had for a long time to use a new modded controller or join up with a friend using a lagswitch or can ddos. Once reported an account is merely banned, not an ip. Therefore you can create as many accounts as you want from the same console. For some it might be about getting a higher kd, for others it's just getting sweet loot. Again, fair assumption, but it missed the mark.

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  • So what your saying is that since I have a 1.67 K.D then I'm automatically a cheater for using The Last Word?

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  • No. He is saying that since you have a 1.67 kd, you are more likely to run into cheaters.

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  • Edited by Windgemon: 8/9/2016 5:28:28 PM
    I know, I'm just saying lately I've been being called a cheater for having a high K.D, but lately I've been joining crucible matches where an entire team gets kicked (these players weren't in a fireteam) and I'll be the only one remaining for the rest of the match depending on how much time is left. Even when I lose in these matches I still tend to get kill streaks. As for the people on the other team they will say things like "hope you enjoyed being the only player in your team" or "I'm gonna ban you from the PlayStation servers and acting like somebody who owns PlayStation" (not gonna give any names because there has been several).

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  • Not at all. You inferred that. "It's amazing what [i]some[/i] are willing to do...." I didn't mention TLW or any specific weapon either.

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  • True, but then again there has been several occasions people have called me a hacker for using Kepris Sting in crucible (Don't know if I spelled that correctly). Whenever people go as far as cheating now days it's mainly ddos and exploiting a specific error code (Baboon) to kick people from Trails of Osiris.

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  • You have 1.63 according to trials report

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  • Edited by Windgemon: 8/9/2016 5:31:59 PM
    I rarely play Trails of Osiris anymore. I do enjoy it from time to time, but it's slowly gotten worse as your chances of finding ddos teams increases at 8 wins.

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  • Not my findings... I do carries regularly now and have found that you can usually counter ddos. That is if you have a carry partner like mine that constantly rerouts packets sent to any of our routers.

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  • Yessss. I always see new videos posted of people getting ddos'd. Not sure how bungie can fix this one, aside from bans. That's assuming the reporting system is accurately weeding through the "Im reporting you cuz you beat me" vs the legit reports. Not sure why you'd be reported for the gauntlets. I know there was an issue where people were getting the ohk backstab without actually being behind someone. Other than that it just sounds like they were salty. Lol.

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  • Possibly, but as I've said, I have run into a few in trials and generally the advantages they have are far more extreme than this. I've also seen plenty of videos where people claim they've caught cheats and the majority of them are just examples of bad lag. Essentially all this video shows is a guy whose wrecking with hawksaw. The TTK is abnormally fast, granted, but that can be caused by lag on either players end. Its a problem because it leads to people blaming other players for flaws on Bungies end.

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  • Edited by ThisMahSwamp: 8/9/2016 5:18:37 PM
    Modded controller, particularly one that offers rapid fire. Hawksaw's TTK at optimal range and regardless of whether it rolled full auto or not is exactly 0.83 seconds. What we saw in the video is a weapon, which I use on a regular basis, firing at rates far beyond what it should be capable of. The gun is killing in half the time it should. There's bad lag, then there's what OP posted....blatant cheating. Is it "lag switches"? No....it's a modded controller through and through. I've seen how spoopy Bungo's connections can be, but what is shown in that video is without a doubt something more than mere lag.

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  • Well that's the issue, is it firing at twice the speed or just killing in half the time. I didn't notice it firing any faster than usual, but I can't watch it again now, but if its just the TTK then that could easily be lag.

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  • It's firing notably faster.

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  • Lol, ok, did you see the figures of players banned for proven network manipulation? Last I read was the April may figures and it was 33k in April 29k in may, before that was 25k in Nov, 28k in December. Not sure if repeat offenders, or repeaters on new ACC's, but it's rife. Go to YouTube n search how to lag switch, mod, hack etc it's all there and easily done. They just cheat on a non main acc so if banned no biggie

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  • I just play the game a lot, and i've encountered a handful of teams who were outright cheating - ie, shooting through walls (i mean properly, not just clipping a pillar and lag taking it through the wall, I mean shooting you from the otherside of the map through multiple walls), invisible players, players with infinite super and invulnerable players etc. All of these happened in trials. Getting killed in one burst by a hawksaw doesn't compare to that. And those bans include everyone temporarily restricted for poor connections. I don't view that as cheating. The restrictions for that aren't meant as a punishment, they're meant to improve the experience for other players. Highly doubt that the number of permanent bans they've handed out as a result of proper cheating is anywhere close to that number.

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  • its cheating Look his psn id in guardians.gg and you will see

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  • Can't see the video anymore. From what I saw I didn't see anything that resembles the usual methods of cheating. Stuff like that happens all the time, it might look like he killed him in one burst but without seeing what's happening on the other players end then its impossible to tell. I've been sniped untold times when I know that I've got back into cover before they've fired, but all they need is a second of lag and bam. Not saying this guy doesn't have a dodgy connection, it might even be on purpose, but its impossible to tell so you can't really call it cheating.

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