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7/26/2016 9:11:14 PM
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LMAO. Nooooooo. TF would they give Tlalok an element? That's SO dumb. The gun is overpowered AF as it is. Has more fire rate than a freaking Mida with double the stability and reload. FNo.
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Not op at all. Not even close
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what does the element have to do with pvp /:
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That statement has NOTHING to do with PVP. The weapon shouldn't have an elemental damage type. I understand why it doesn't, it's scout rifle damage averaging 4k a hit, with the fire rate of an auto-rifle makes it capable of ruining just about any enemy. Lmao. I own every exotic in the game short of the PSExclusive. The gun is overpowered. PVP and PVE.
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so why compare to mida?
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Because he needs to choose a low damage scout to justify his arguement. Also Ele damage doesn't do jack shit other than take down shields faster/slower depending in the shield, not to mention it only does more damage with a burn active. Having ele primaries wasn't an issue at all really, don't really get why they had to take that away from players
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"So why do you compare it to the Mida?*" Because it was the only scout rifle with a similar fire rate. This in mind, the Mida still has LESS impact, stability, and fire rate than the Tlalok when it has it's super benefit.
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it's only OP with a super activated, which balances it out. Bungie said it
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Sunsinger nullifies that argument.
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nearly no one uses sunsinger. Everyone its either A. Shotgun thunderstriker with claws B. Nothing Manancles voidwalker The ONLY time I see someone running sunsinger it's on trials, and they aren't using tlaloc
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Do you even raid bro?
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Im back to raiding. Anyway, (if we are talking about king's fall) then MAYBE a sunsinger would save his self rez (for examle, Oryx Challenge Mode Hard would be very useful). But I doubt Bungie would do this, plus you have Touch of Malice. Even if they do OP changes, then tehy ned to buff Ace of Spades and that abomination of a titan auto rifle
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All 3 raids, EVEN skolas people still use sunsinger man. Lmao. Touch of Malice is ONLY good for Daughers and oryx. Man. Tlaloc already stands out from the other class exclusives. It does not need an elemental buff.
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Just because self rez. Not like you would need it on Skolas, Vog and CE since they are easy AF and most people 1 or 2 man CE. Much better to use voidwalker or stormtrancer.
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Lol. For orb spawning man. Sunsinger STILL can outshine both of those.
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Stormtrance with the perk that extends the super can make the same amount of orbs, and it's continous damage without having to stop
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No need with nightstalkers.
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we are talking about warlocks
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you killed your argument right there. Tlaloc MUST have it's perk going, which the player CANNOT use their super if they want it to work. More than likely that NO ONE will say "I'll just never use my super so my gun is slightly better!" in PvE or PvP, that's just stupid and I main a warlock.
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The ability outshines the super seeing 80% of the warlock population uses Self-res anyways. Lmao. Seriously. I have all 3 classes sitting at level cap of 335. Tlaloc* As your friend seems to pointed out, is still overpowered. You seriously don't need to use your super at all as a Sunsinger, and if you run an alchemist's Raiment you STILL get the benefit from orbs. For Grenade, melee, and health recharge if you have a helmet with "Better Already." Or "Infusion." Perks for shield or health regeneration on pickup. Lol. The Tlaloc is Perfectly fine in the place that it is currently in, it does not require a buff. It is perfectly balanced without an elemental enhancement to modify it. It would seriously bring the WARLOCK ONLY weapon above all other weapons in it's category. Seeing it already completely outclasses other scout rifles with the benefit of it's perk in the first place.
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Lol where are you getting these numbers from?
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Real warlocks would be running Voidwalker or Storm Caller, as they are vastly superior in every way shape and form. Sunsingers are for those who just aren't good enough to stay alive, that's it really.
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I'm a real Whorelock. I main Sunsinger and Purifier Robes. Flame shield is better than life steal. Firebolt grenades are better than scatter grenades unless you have The Nothing Manacles. The Claws of Ahamkara give you a second melee. The Purifier Robes blind enemies when you self-res, and that makes Sunsinger pretty viable in PvP (I guess you haven't figured it out yet), but it's really all up to the user. Whenever I raid, people always tell me to run Sunsinger. I love my wings of fire. I love Angel of Light and being able to run around a corner and stay in the air long enough for the enemy to think I'm gone -- just to drop down and shotgun them to oblivion. Yes, Nova Bomb and Stromtrance are much better supers, but I save my super for when I actually need it. Oh, and trust me, I can stay alive long enough just like the rest of them.
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Lmao You say that but even in Trials, or raids, which are the most prominent forms of PVE and PVP. They still play Warlocks. You say "Real Warlocks." But Even with your choice of words there is no validation seeing 80% of them STILL use sunsinger. Lmao. You guys got an elemental change on your secondary anyways.
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well if you wish to play the correction game the gun you're speaking of is *tlaloc, and the archetype of tlaloc is the prefered archetype in pve. who really uses mida for pve when you could use a legendary instead /:
