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Edited by StarlightGlimmer:
7/23/2016 5:10:45 PM
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BEST Counter for Last Word / Sniper Combo!
...I've got nothing. You get too close and you get melted instantly. If you're too far away then bye bye face.
"But OP, just find a good middle ground and stay out of sniper lanes (lmao) and you'll be good".
B.S.
[spoiler] In all seriousness, what do you guys do to counter this meta that has been around since the HoW? I'm just curious. [/spoiler]
Edit: For those who didn't realize, I was joking. Secondly, I've read some really good responses but, like always, stupid sarcastic comments show their faces...
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I use axiom bolt grenades either they sit and take the hit or run. If they run then they are open for a few shots no worries about a snipe or shotgun or tlw. If the sit and take the hit it might be a waiting game I try to avoid sniping lanes unless I can get their first and line up. Some people are either too good with a sniper or really lucky.
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2 RepliesEasiest way for me to counter the last word is to use it myself, cause I'm godly with it. And for snipers? Well most snipers here on ps4 hards cope lanes at standing head level with no ability to move their scopes according to the players height, so right as I'm going into their sight, I crouch and aim my scope a bit up and their bullet goes right above my head.
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Just like everything else, there are good snipers and there are bad snipers. The bad ones, with like 10 total kills by the end of the game just hang out in the back and are pretty easy to sneak up on and kill from the sides or back. The good ones? The ones that can just whip it out and kill you from 30 ft. away? Duck, weave, jump, whatever you do to avoid the good players of any other type. Some players are just really good, so you tip your hat and try to be the one who fires first the next time you see them. If I die 2 or 3 times a game to a sniper then I just let it slide, I still die more to shotguns anyway.
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2 RepliesCountering snipers isn't difficult once you realise that most players can't snipe very well and rely on lining up with choke points via pretty obvious lanes. If you absolutely need to go through the lane, slide, blink or jump so that you're not at head level. Most players will either miss or body shot you and then you're out of their sight line. I'm far from an amazing player (especially in Trials) but I rarely die to snipers unless I'm a) ignoring my own advice or b) playing against people who can stay mobile whilst sniping and can hit some great shots from unexpected angles. The added bonus of lots of terrible snipers is the sheer number of kills I get from people who try to quick scope or no scope me when I push with a primary. Most of them would have actually won the engagement if they'd had their -blam!-ing primary out in the first place! Oh, and people tunnel visioning so hard that they don't notice me hitting them from the side with a shotgun. Pantheon is a great map for this!
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I suggest learning to close the gap with other handcannons. The vast majority of people it seems aren't really that great with The Last Word, so they take somewhere around 6 shots to kill you because they miss so much. Also, utilize the equipment that's available to you. I think too many people forget how helpful abilities are in this game, and they rely too much on their primaries.
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3 RepliesAnything that is more than 10 ft long qualifies as a sniper lane in this game
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2 RepliesJ A D E R A B B I T
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8 RepliesI counter it by dying. After all, they can't kill me if I'm already dead.
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last word used to be soooooo much worse than it is now personally i think it's fine.
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Mida and shotgun. Hawkmoon and a fusion.
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3 RepliesLearn to "juke em out of their shoes" An old school MLG Halo player taught me that term, lol...
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4 RepliesDid you expect anything less than good conversation on a forum dominated by teenagers and early twenty kids?? Not exactly the bane of intelligent thought in that demographic bud.
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1 ReplyQwwwestiiing Beeeeeeast...the gun that destroys everyyyyything.
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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. It's scrubby but it works.
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2 RepliesEdited by High Charity: 7/24/2016 5:15:24 PMHawksaw. Mida. PDX-45. Grasp and Doctrine from closer ranges. Flank and use a Fusion Rifle. Use your head. If you get killed from the same place stop going there. Learn to strafe as well.
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Edited by Ethica1: 7/24/2016 6:08:34 PM[quote]...I've got nothing. You get too close and you get melted instantly. If you're too far away then bye bye face. "But OP, just find a good middle ground and stay out of sniper lanes (lmao) and you'll be good". B.S. [spoiler] In all seriousness, what do you guys do to counter this meta that has been around since the HoW? I'm just curious. [/spoiler] Edit: For those who didn't realize, I was joking. Secondly, I've read some really good responses but, like always, stupid sarcastic comments show their faces...[/quote] First of all, I hate when people say, "avoid sniper lanes", when literally almost anywhere on the map is a sniper lane. But now for your concerns, fusion rifle from just outside "shotgun/melee" range out to about double that range is devastating to a TLW scrub. They'll get you down to about 50-25%ish health and then they melt away. It's glorious and I teabag every time. As for the snipers, same thing works if you can close the distance. Once you close the distance to that optimal range, jump or slide into view and fire away. Most won't run and will either try to quick scope the headshot, double body shot, body and primary, or switch to their TLW. If they switch to TLW, see paragraph 2. If they quick scope the headshot, they deserved it. Otherwise, you'll melt them before they can finish you off.
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High impact scouts do wonders against snipers. For TLW.... if you can't beat em, join em.
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2 RepliesJADE RABBIT
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8 RepliesTLW isn't even that good anymore. I die way more to guns like Hacksaw, grasp and Mida instead TLW.
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1 ReplyHigh impact Scout Rifle and Plan C Three head shots or instantly kill them if they get too close.
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Running strikes
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Uh grenades? [spoiler]lmao[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesI've been moving side to side and dropping them with nirwens mercy. It's real great
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2 RepliesTickle fingers Hammers or Good old Goldengun
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5 RepliesEdited by Juice: 7/24/2016 12:27:57 AMTHE FABIAN STRATEGY! This gun destroys all. In all seriousness...I love this weapon and think it is severely underused. For actually beating last word and snipes...shoot them before they see you. That's all I have.
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Scout with Explosive rounds and a Rapid charge fusion preferably the Talesto. Worked for me so far. Shoot Talesto explosion kills them or 1 shot from my scout.
