1) Spike Grenades are every bit as effective as Lightning Grenades, you just need to learn how to use them.
2) yes, Titans can get double Lightning Grenades, but Hunters can have double smoke grenades
3) Shoulder Charge... Smoke... Shoulder Charge... Smoke... They have theirs, (we) have ours
4) I say (we) because I've really been enjoying playing a Hunter again, but it's really pretty embarrassing to be associated with so much crying when every class (except maybe the poor nerfed Sunsingers) have advantages that make them great.
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It's awful there's a nerf coming to titans and everyone knows it. But what can anyone say since Bungie has catered to the weak since the release.
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For someone who has all classes i must say could you people stop it is really annoying how much undeserved hate hunters get #BUFFSUNBREAKER
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Edited by BRAZACK: 7/22/2016 9:45:00 PMWhat are you smoking dude? The void spike grenades blow ballsack they dont even kill people in one hit and you can always run out or through them. Lightning grenades kill u in one hit and u cant run past or throught them because it will kill you. It also arcs out to the side so it has a wide aoe. Im not asking for it to get nerfed but i think all other stickies like it need to be buff. They should all be just as good. Shoulder charge needs a cooldown timer like storm of fists, this way scrublets wont rely on it the entire match. All the strikers i run into run around with a shotgun and they shoulder charge. Im not asking for a nerf but this shit will get nerfed there is no justifying it or defending it. It wasnt a problem b4 because throwing knives and blink strike could shut it down. Warlocks have melees that can hit a mile out so i dont think they have an issue with shoulder chargers. Shoulder charging is the main reason i run a shotgun these days i usually run a sidearm. Most of the times i dont even have enough time to react to counter a shoulder charge anyway. So for all you shoulder charging the entire match no skill strikers....you are getting nerfed regardless of what any1 says. Bungie already noticed it and their data probably shows all the shoulder charging shenanigans.
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Edited by The IRS (Adept): 7/22/2016 9:20:26 PMWanna hear a joke? Shoulder Charge's ridiculous aim assist... You could jump straight up and it would still hit you...
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Edited by Phnx y0: 7/22/2016 3:45:31 PMWell since you have a bias. From a player who plays every class, SC needs to have 1 change. When hovering, SC should lose its charge when not going full speed in a single direction. Lightning Grenades need to have a range/cone need to match Spike and Tripmines. There also needs to be range falloff. It shouldn't do full damage at max range. Even the other grenades have falloff.
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Trip mines are still bossy. I don't care what anyone says.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again - Titans's Shoulder Charge and Lightning Grenades are the latest abilities to be put on the chopping block from sore losers. Last time it was Shadestep and Firebolts. Abilities and weapons go hand-in-hand when it comes to getting nerfs implemented - we're looking at a Universal Remote/Grasp of Malok nerf, while last patch we saw Doctrine/Arminius/Soulstealer's get hit. This [i]needs[/i] to stop. If this continues, there'll be nothing left to neuter. Nothing left to use. And, when the poor poppets flock to the forums to complain that the big, bad Guardians spoiled their fun, they'll have no-one to blame but themsleves.
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IT'S ABOUT TIME WE GOT OUR TURN TO Dominate the crucible. Y'all don't know the crap us titans had to go through in year 1. Dealing with blink shotgun. Shoulder Charge not working properly, T- Rex arms. Oh the pain. We still have T-Rex arms compared to the Warlocks and Hunters.
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Edited by JeIIyTheBean: 7/22/2016 9:55:46 AMFirst I'm a Hunter, and I think Titans are fine. 1) Lightning Grenades are just the best for pvp hands down. You can't deny that and instead of using spike grenades as a good example for hunters, try the skip grenade for most people agree that they are good. 2) I would agree with this but smokes just got nerfed and they weren't as easy to use as lightnings were. Sorry got nothing to help you on this one. I would rather have two lightnings over anything else you can get for pvp. 3) First SC and smokes are different but I don't find SC to be a problem or op sooo next. 4) I see both Hunter mains and Warlock mains complain about Titans. So don't worry and be proud to be a hunter :3 Also I'm I the only one who doesn't find the Sunsinger nerf that bad. I'm been playing on my Warlock and it feels just fine to me?
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I miss my Sunsinger...
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I don't give two shits about titans. warlocks are another story.
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I miss my Sunsinger now I have to use Void Walker. After this IB I'm going to edge my PvP rep on my warlock and I'm never going to play PvP with it.
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Bump I'd give the Hunters a tissue if I had one [spoiler]But I don't have one[/spoiler] [spoiler]And I'm an asshole[/spoiler]
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Bump As someone who mains a hunter sols, I think we wouldn't even care about strikers if we had our tripmine grenades back
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[quote]1) Spike Grenades are every bit as effective as Lightning Grenades, you just need to learn how to use them. 2) yes, Titans can get double Lightning Grenades, but Hunters can have double smoke grenades 3) Shoulder Charge... Smoke... Shoulder Charge... Smoke... They have theirs, (we) have ours 4) I say (we) because I've really been enjoying playing a Hunter again, but it's really pretty embarrassing to be associated with so much crying when every class (except maybe the poor nerfed Sunsingers) have advantages that make them great.[/quote] 1. Yes, but they are way easier to get out of than Lightning nades. 2. Smoke is a melee, and not really a direct comparison to Lightning nade. 3. Sigh, SC is also not the same as smoke. Really not seeing the comparison, personally. 4. It's funny, cause most of the nerf posts I've been seeing lately is from lock mains, so don't know why this is even being made a point..... I'm going to be honest here, but I'm absolutely sick and fn tired of this "blame the hunters" epidemic that goes on around these forums. What's worse is when it finally starts to die off, there's posts like this that just start the crap over again. Why do we need to sit here and continuously act in this manner? What point does this make, by continuing to go alienating a class just because of a few? Normally I don't get annoyed at this crap, but enough is enough already.
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why do people say hunters cry nerf. i always see warlocks bitching i hear hunter bitching when it comes to nerfing things that were nerfed on only them but not others. example how is the damage resistance of storm caller ok being as high as bladedancer was pre nerf. but instead of addressing that you nerf hunters and titans, again. great ideas.
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Yeah! Buuuuuuuuuuuummmmp! Bump
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What if I don't want to be a Nightstalker?
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Couldn't bump more.
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Also smoke is kinda a bad comparison to shoulder charge. One doesn't have a cooldown and rarely kills on its own
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Nothing's better than filling the Hallway on Vertigo by B with Tripmines on Mayhem though. WIth Young Ahamkara's on you get a ton and they last so long.
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Not that I disagree, but you used smoke against 2 other abilities. Yes 2 smokes is the same as 2 grenades but then you can't use smoke for the shoulder charge comparison.
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Yea but lightning grenades need 2 have an area an distance reduction. An the tripmines were useful until the sticky got taken away. Also you missed the young spine of akamarah it gives two tripmines but it's worthless since the sticky got taken away from the tripmine. Smoke doesn't stop a shoulder charge an shoulder charge is still a one hit kill the only one hit kill on the game for pvp. Smoke doesn't last as long cause someone bitched about the duration of void grenades an smokes makeing it where lockdown doesn't work anymore. So I don't see how you logic works cause I just de-bunked it. Titans are still alittle to op but then again I dont use striker like a panzie I use sunbreaker.
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Yeah I've enjoyed playing my hunter alot lately also, yes shoulder charger can be annoying, and it does get annoying to die to, but dying to something doesn't make it overpowered, I wish people would play as a class before saying it's overpowered and needs to be nerfed
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Why do you say it like hunters are there own community? Its a game and most play with all three characters.
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I find hunter is the worse out of all three charchters to be.