Hey friend how are you doing? Yes I don't like snipers I this game. Yes I perfer CQC instead of long range. However I have many friends who snipe and have met players who are primarily snipers many have told sniping is ridiculous easy compared to other game. I've gone into rumble to understand aim assist, I've attempted sniping. What I've seen is their no penalties for messing up, no fear of losing when you have two snipers body shotting and the list goes on. Now if I'm wrong prove me wrong use information to prove me wrong and I'll change what I said. Don't name call or stat what does that do? Make Someone feel bad? Logic over insults.

At work at the moment. For the mean time, please read comments left for the other comments on the post. Will reply later.

Have a good day at work!

In order to form a proper debate, I'll be watching your videos as well as your opponents in an attempt to provide solid evidence. Some may be more or less game play critiques however they will still fill their purpose as to if you were challenging properly i.e. knowing when to back out of a possible losing fight. Since I'm still at work, this will be done later tonight in a new post with said videos attached as evidence. *puts on debate pants* I enjoy debating as well so i accept your challenge. As such, I will refrain from negative terms and/or slander in order to have a professional debate. All I ask in return is the favor of having real data/evidence in your rebuttal AND in the event you feel I MAY be correct on my stance, that you give me a firm hand shake and concede and I will give the same courtesy to you in return. Not to be mean but I've read every comment in this thread and while it is filled with worthless comments, some were valid points that you shot down based on opinion instead of fact and evidence. With me, I challenge you to NOT base any argument or rebuttal on opinion but on fact and proper data. *shakes hand and tips hat* good luck. Talk to you in a few hours. Edit: Reply will take longer. With the recent update, guardian.theater broke and now I can only view yours. Will reply when it's working again.

Personally, I've got a nice 1k, and had a good LB, but it always seemed like when I was getting shot while aiming at someone the flinching made a kill impossible, but if I'm on the other end of that spectrum ppl can still get their shots off. Monte Carlo's, Hakkons, doctrines, they make my sniping ability null, but when I'm pumping my Carlo directly in someone's face, getting nothing but yellow 20's, they shouldn't be able to dome me so easily. And please look at my stats, because I sucked for a long time with shotguns so snipers were all I used (still not great with shotguns, but I have found a good place lol) anytime I get that shot off and it ends up being a headshot after I got shot, I know it was luck, but there is no way so many ppl are constantly that lucky

Actually alot of its not luck. What people aren't realizing is that a vast amount of players don't play this anymore. The player base is extremely low compared to what it was. The majority of the players left are the ones that have been playing for along time. With that said, with time comes skill. Meaning alot of the players left are the ones that have mastered there craft. That's why things have been very "sweaty". It's not an imbalance of weapons, classes, etc. It's that the majority of players left are just good at what they do. For example, I'm not great at PvP. I'm average at best. I suck at 6's but I'm pretty decent at 3's. Most snipers (myself included) can time the flinch we get from being hit in order to get a dome in. We know the meta well. If someone's hitting me with a mida, it can only shoot so fast. In our minds we can time it and pull the trigger in between the fire. It does take a bit of skill and practice to do. What people need to quit doing is challenging snipers in a snipe lane. Secondaries are supposed to be better than primaries. There's so many ways to out play them to. One tactic i like to do when i know im being out sniped is to starve them of special ammo. Tactics and strategy can normal out play people with higher gun skill. With the lack of player base, it's going to be challenging but knowing the maps, lanes, counters, etc will significantly help you.

Which I've been practicing my ass off, but sometimes it really seems wasteful, but not because of the doing, your points were more than valid, and I get it, because like I said I've lucked into well timed counter snipes. I can obviously use more practice, but anytime I go into some skirmish or if trials isn't active, some elimination; I always get the most lag filled lobbies. I just don't know what to do, I wish someone could help me lol

Are you on Xbox or PS4?