Hello and welcome Guardians, this is your friendly neighborhood AnonPig and I’m here to talk about an older theory of mine that I’ve never publicly shared that actually grew a bit with The Taken King. It’s nothing too large like my past few, but i thought it was a good one that you may enjoy. The timeline in the universe of Destiny is one that’s very fascinating, it goes back so far that we really can’t place a true date on it. Some have tried using the numbers given by Oryx, Auryx at the time, and his sisters, but that might not be the same time reference as we use so let’s just say it goes back really far. One of the greatest things about Destiny is how it lives in our physical real world and expands upon it, so using real world science people have dated the universe to be about 13.8 billion years old! In the Destiny universe we also have knowledge of two seemingly timeless entities, almost as if they were a cosmic force that lived. I believe that, like in Greek mythology, out of the Chaos of nothingness came these two forces. The Sky and the Deep. As Guardians, as servants of the Traveler and Light we are servants of the Sky, the Hive and their more gruesome past has made them servants of the Deep. They lived on a gas giant called Fundament resting between the two, Sky and Deep, until they were forced to seek for more power and dive down within the planet. An agent of the Sky, a Leviathan tried to stop them in the following card. [b]VIII: Leviathan[/b] [quote]The Leviathan’s Warning ++We live on the edge of a war— —a war between Formless and Form++ ++between the Deep and the Sky— ++MY EYES ARE WIDE, MY GAZE IS LONG++ —Across the universe, as far as I see++ ++the Sky works to charge its fires— —and the Deep drowns the ash++ —Sky builds gentle places, safe for life++ ++Beloved Fundament, refuge of trillions— —The Sky treasures this rich place++ —BUT THE DEEP IS HERE WITH US— ++Cold logic tests our walls— —The Deep claims its dominion++ ++A ruthless, final age — Aurash’s Protest Old Leviathan, creature of myth, this world is no refuge. We live short, hard lives. We die in the dark. The storm above us will never end. And soon the God-Wave will take us all. Above us there are only stormjoys, monsters, and moons of apocalypse. Let us go down, down, where we may discover truth, some power to avenge ourselves upon our betrayers, some hope of survival. The Leviathan’s Hope —What power calls you++ ++Down to the deep?— ++What instinct draws you— —Away from high hope?++ —Quick-breeding krill people, I tell you++ ++For eons I have watched your struggle— —Clinging to the sharp edge of survival++ ++Balanced between the Deep and the Sky.— ++You were my treasure— —My proof against despair++ —FOR THIS IS THE DEEP CLAIM— ++Existence is the struggle to exist— —When the struggle seems lost++ ++when the safe place crumbles— —everything turns to the Deep to survive++ ++I REJECT THE DEEP CLAIM++ —You will turn back, sweet krill of hope.±± ++You will choose the Sky instead.— Xi Ro’s Protest You are huge and old! Our lives are short and desperate. If that’s the way the world’s supposed to be, I won’t have it! If people like Taox are supposed to win, I won’t let them! I’ll beat the world until it changes! I’ll kill anything in the way! The Leviathan’s Dirge ++This fatal logic++ —Hear my monopole scream!— ++It will consume you++ —Before you lies— ++The worship of death++ —The ruinous path— ++The Sky builds new life++ —Against the onset of ruin— ++Towards a gentle world++ —The Deep embraces death— ++Saying: this is inevitable and right++ —I exist as hungry ruin— ++TURN BACK FROM THE WORLD-KILLING WAY++ ++OR YOU WILL LIVE AS DEATH AND DEVASTATION++ —The Sky is the harder way. But it is kinder.— —My charge is balanced: my voice exhausted.— Sathona’s Protest Sisters, I have my father’s familiar. Look! It answers me in plain words. It helped me find this ship. It gives me strength when hope is lost. Who will you trust? The voice that wants us to live and suffer, as we have lived and suffered? The Leviathan that offers no hope against Taox or the world-wave? Or the plain, honest worm? Let us see where its whisper leads us, Aurash. Let us go deeper, Xi Ro! Let us dive, oh sisters mine.[/quote] In this card we see the ideologies of the Sky and of the Deep, and we understand that they’ve forever been at war with each other. I show you this so you can see what i believe is the start of the universe all together, Sky and Deep, each fighting to create the universe in the image they desire. One wishes to build and have several prosper, and the other wants one victor. Again looking back into the real world science we see that it’s our sun, the star in our system, that grants us life. The heat it brings allows us to have liquid water and all that other good stuff. The first star, or rather the oldest star has been dated back to 13.2 billion years ago, 600 million years after the start of the universe. But looking at the Warlock chest piece that was just sold by Xur this weekend we see the Destiny universe says something different. [b]Starfire Protocol[/b] [quote]13.4 billion years ago, the first stars kindled out of darkness, seeding the future of all life.[/quote] This chest piece says that the first star came 200 million years before the actual first star, and goes on to say how it seeded the future of all life. This is what led me to the theory that the first star was, metaphorically, the Traveler. No it’s not physically a star, but it does go around seeding the life of every planet and system it goes to. This has become it’s job as an agent of the Sky, and I believe Starfire Protocol is informing us just how old the Traveler is, and about how long it’s been running. Thankyou for reading, this is your friendly neighborhood AnonPig! [url=https://www.bungie.net/ru/Forum/Post/115658936/0/0]AnonPig’s Theories Archived[/url]