Strikers are screwed. And seeing the nerf kids get their way, over and over again saddens me. I only play as a hunter and will never stray, but taking a sub class and neutering it is terrible. And will never fill me with any joy. I don't think firebolts burn times were op, that was kinda the point. Minus one for recovery for blinkers is uncalled for. Should've left trip mines alone. Shade step and smoke grenades were fine too. And the sun breakers super had to be ridiculous considering how crappy their neutral was (was/is, no offense).
So let's look at shoulder charge. Seems like you gotta wind it up and aim. High risk high reward, going through with it puts the striker in a pretty bad spot. Why nerf it? Wtf is gonna get nerfed after that?
Man if these forums didn't exist I think destiny would be such a different game today.
We can sit here and talk about balance all day and I'll here you out. But each sub class has its strengths and weaknesses. Why put everyone on such level ground? 1) it's impossible and if you do manage to get it close some how 2) what would we be left with?
Our exotic weapons aren't even exotic anymore because of the vast majority who cry nerf.
Sorry for the rant, I just can't muster the words that can describe how much I hate all of u that cry nerf. You guys ruin so much for so many people. Shame on you.
Bungie can we just vote on all buffs and nerfs from now on please?
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Nerfs are ruining this game.
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What if everything you ever wanted... WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! PUT THESE SWEET-ASS LEGS ON YOUR TITAN AND YOU WILL F***ING DECIMATE THINGS WITH YOUR POWERFUL KNEES. THEY ARE GEMS. YOU WILL LOOKGLAMOROUS LIKE A STYLISH LADYWHILE YOU KNEE SOMEONE IN THE THROAT SO HARD THEIR TEETH GO FLYING OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLE! YOUR LEGS ARE BEDAZZLED! BEDAZZLED WITH THE STRENGTH OF 1,000 KODIAK BEARS IF KODIAK BEARS GAVE ZERO F***S ABOUT GRAVITY AND EVOLVED TO DO SWEET JUMPKICKS! YOU WILL SET YOUR CHILD ON YOUR KNEE TO GIVE HIM SOUND FATHERLY ADVICE AND THAT CHILD WILL F***ING EXPLODE BECAUSE YOUR KNEES ARE INSTANT DEATH! YOUR SON WILL DIE!YOUR WIFE WILL DIVORCE YOU! YOU WILL DIE ALONE ATOP THE MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES YOU'VE LEFT IN YOUR WAKE AS YOUR LIFE DISSOLVES INTO A NIGHTMARISH HELLSCAPE OF VIOLENCE AND DEPRAVITY! YOU WILL TAKE PEREGRINE GREAVES INTO THE CRUCIBLE AND YOU WILLMASSACRE PEOPLE! YOU WILL F*** THEM UP! YOU WILL KNEE BLADEDANCERS!DENIED! GET THAT BUTTERKNIFE THE F*** OUT OF HERE! YOU WILL KNEE RADIANT WARLOCKSAND CAUSE THEM TO WEEP RADIANT TEARS! YOU WILL KNEE GOLDEN GUNSLINGERS...CAREFULLY.... YOU WILL KNEE OTHER TITANS IN THEIR BUBBLES, DIVING INTO THEIR NEON DISCO DANCE PARTIES BLIND AS SHITAND MURDERING THEM WITH YOURENERGY LEGS! IT IS YOUR BUBBLE NOW SO FU*** THAT GU---wait, shit...THE BUBBLE IS GONE BECAUSE OF YOU GODDAMMIT WHY THE F*** DID YOU DO THAT!? YOU WILL RUIN YOUR K/D LIKE I HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO THE SWEET, SWEET SOUND OF INSTANT AIRBORNE DEATH! YOU WILL CATCH SO MANY SHOTGUN BLASTS TO THE FACEAND IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN YOUKNOCK A BLADEDANCER THE F*** OUTBEFORE HE CAN CHOP UP YOUR TEAM!EVERY PAINFUL DEATH WILL BE VALIDATED AS YOUR LEG COLLIDES WITH A FIERY WARLOCK'S FAGGY GOATHAT SO HARD THAT HE'S RENDERED BRAIN-DAMAGED AND HIS FAMILYFIGHTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TOTAKE HIM OFF OF LIFE-SUPPORT! HE WILL LIVE OFF OF TUBES! BECAUSE OFTEXAAAAAAS! PEREGRINE GREEAAAAAAAAAAVES!!!
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Errm shoulder charge is single handedly the most OP thing in destiny. If you think a OHK melee with a higher then 180° auto aim is "balanced" then you're deluded. Should it be OHK? Yes otherwise it's pointless. Should it have ridiculously high aim assist then? -blam!- no
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Striker doesn't have an overshield. They can't turn invisible. They have high movement speed but the lowest base melee range. They have no weapon handling perks. They do not have an innate defensive move such as blink or shadestep. Their orb generation is limited. They're the CQC class - as such, they have high armor, a OHK melee and powerful melee abilities, and a couple of good grenades. And health regen that only procs on kill. And a shutdown super. They fit their role perfectly. The subclass is fine.
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Decrease striker agility, reduce time shoulder charge stays active. Fixed
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I'm with ya, well written!!
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PVP ruined PvE PvP ruined Exotics PvP ruined destiny
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All I can say is do like I'm currently doing and practice those hammer soul throws. Lol. I tried debating it on one thread and guy got salty so I'm just getting rdy. I feel the nerf to striker coming soon lol. Not much you can do about it.
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I like the idea shoulder charge perk reduces agility by 1. Thats solid but may not be enough from spamming.
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I'd argue the firebolts burn time was op, not the damage although it was kinda over the top. They even claimed this was the point of the subclass yet the subclass could be built a number of different ways sooo. But I wouldn't have minded if the burn damage just hit harder instead of take half an hour to run its course
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They trashed bladedancers, I'd love to see several buffs to them (especially on blink/quickdraw) but I don't care if they ruin any other subclass now either.
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Peoples consistently saying " use a shotgun " to others saying " shoulder charge is OP " is slightly annoying. Seriously? I'm suppose to use my limited SPECIAL to counter your infinite Melee attack? Something that is basic to your class shouldn't be on the same level of power as a special. Power rankings from least powerful to most : Melee, primary, special, heavy, super. A lower ranking attack should have a harder time killing a player using a higher ranking attack against you. Yet, the way you say " use a shotgun " you're stating the Melee is skipping over the primary ranking, and is on the same tier level as a special. And you think that's ok? Anyways, I'm not stating that you can't kill a SCing Titan with anything else besides a shotgun, just find it annoying that some SCing players feel that it's fine their Melee is on the same battlefield with specials.
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rebuff other classes don't nerf strikers ...i don't even have nor have I ever had a titan...and even I don't want them nerfed...i do believe titans are the best overall pvp subclass...but it's because the other classes have been -blam!-ed...not because titans are op
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No nerfs needed but.. don't get how they can shoulder charge in midair NOWHERE NEAR someone and teleport their knee into your face?????
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Sick and tired of seeing posts like this. Balancing in pvp games needs to occur. Firebolt was not okay, original hammers was not okay, vanilla bladedancer was not okay. All needed a balance, just as striker does now. The issue lies in how bungie goes about doing this. They don't balance classes or weapons, they demolish them.
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[quote]Our exotic weapons aren't even exotic anymore because of the vast majority who cry nerf.[/quote]
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Pls bungo no nerfs .
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What gives me hope is that I believe Bungie balances on data, i.e., KD, what's being used the most, etc. Therefore, if we have enough strikers running into the crucible using only shoulder charge and getting negative KD, then maybe we can be saved [spoiler]MAYBE[/spoiler]
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Bungo nerfs largely based on usage. Sunbreaker got buffed, striker usage will fall because of it. No nerf to striker will happen. Nerfs to HROF pulse rifles on the other hand...
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I agree if this forum didn't give voice to the whiney bitches destiny would be much better off
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I agree about them taking away little things like burn for example, that made classes what they were and good. Every class has something that made it a little "op" but that's what gives all the classes diversity
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I've mained a Titan since September 2014. Always a striker. When Sunbreaker was released I used it sparingly. Striker has always for me been the subclass of preference. Even before the "buff". Players continually overreact in Destiny. Everyone uses the most viable methods to get the win. GET OVER IT CRYBABIES.
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I disagree about shadestep being fine, it wasn't fine and it was the biggest crutch in the entire game. You could pretty much get out of every bad situation by just spamming shadestep. No skill was required. Smoke was fine imo just a bit annoying.
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Melee range buff Titans. I would choose a perk that buffs melee range instead of shoulder charge
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You make me sad. I geuss you have already forgot getting hit by a firebolt. Jesus Christ I hate this community
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you never had to aim shoulder charge it was a free kill for running for 3 seconds it wasnt even close to balanced