It has gotten to the point where being rude is needed. The nerfherders have ruined Destiny for so many players. I haven't played in a long time. (For me 3 or 4 days) because of the nerfs, sbmm and horrible latency and lag that comes from it, and the overall horrible changes to Destiny. The reason people can do what you are describing is because of the inability to kill them before they can [i]shoot one weapon then switch to another.[/i] Yes this happened in year one but was far more unlikely then it is not. It takes .8 seconds to kill someone with grasp. It takes about the same time to body shot and switch to primary....that's horrible. Despite my new character I have spent more time in Crucible then most people. And I hate it now. It's horrible. Every game as latency and lag. And they are forcing playstyles on people by constantly regulating how we play. They are more strict then the MLB is with steroid use... Seriously when people say Balance they don't actually want balance. They want something to be less effective. That's not balance that's nerfing.