I covered this before in another thread as a little side topic to [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/171885380/0/0]a larger discussion about the Awoken[/url], but I think should have been it's own topic. This might already be obvious to everyone, but it wasn't to me at first. I think it sheds a lot of light on The Taken King's final cinematic with Eris Morn; it is a scene that has started a lot of speculation, but the answers are there in the Grimoire and foreshadowing. So Eris (a hunter without a ghost) met with queen Mara Sov to get her help for stopping Oryx. [quote]"You don't have one." The Hunter came to a halt in front of the throne, raised her covered face to meet the Prince's gaze. "No," she agreed. "My next death will be my last." [...] "[...] I will do anything—" her low voice shook with passion— "to end Oryx." [...] A silence rang out in the room. The Hunter kept her head raised, her ambiguous gaze directed at the shadows in the throne where the Queen reclined. Then a small smile curved the Queen's lips. "Well said." She straightened, and leaned slightly forward so the room's light fell on her face. "So let us end him." (Ghost Fragment: The Queen 2)[/quote] In the Taken King's opening cinematic, queen Mara Sov says this: [quote]You and I know how this ends. We've known since [b]you escaped from that... pit[/b]. [...] This was all part of the plan. Guide them, my [b]Hidden[/b] friend[/quote] Eris is the only one we know escaped from a pit. She said this before in Crota's End cinematic. [quote]Six of us went down into the pit. Only one crawled out. I am Eris, the last. I have seen what the Hive call a god[/quote] We know that Eris part of the Hidden (Ikora's spies). [quote]Eris returns to the shadows time and time again, operating as one of Ikora Rey's Hidden—a clandestine group of Guardians tasked with silently infiltrating enemy strongholds and gathering vital intel for the Warlocks. (Crota's Bane)[/quote] So it is clear that Mara Sov is speaking to Eris in the cinematic, and not Oryx as the visuals would imply. Anyway, this explains who Eris Morn was talking to at the end of the Taken King's Regicide mission when she refers to someone as "my queen." I initially assumed it must be Nokris or some new antagonist. I don't really know or understand what the plan was between the two women, but [b]it involves making use of multiple universes or timelines by accessing the realm existing beyond the veil.[/b] [quote]The chamber was dark. The seven of them were rarely in a room together anymore, but this was the eve of their greatest journey, [b]a plan that overcame death and spanned universes[/b]. (The Coven)[/quote] You guys should feel free to try to deduce what the plan was, but remember that apparently losing was all according to plan (and I doubt it's just to show the City what the dreadnought can do). Getting a guardian to fight Oryx was also part of the plan. [quote]The Awoken have played their part. This... was all part of the plan. (TTK opening cinematic)[/quote] [quote]My queen... you were right. The guardian was the key. (Regicide ending cinematic)[/quote] So what was the entirety of the plan? How/why does it span universes and overcome death? [b]For more theories by me, I refer you to the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/183288968/0/0]Collected Treatises of The Warlock KAGEHOSHI[/url].[/b]