[quote]Sniper have gotten to a point where they are literal perfect weapons for any bad player or good one, to put it simply sniping in destiny takes no skill. Point one: Snipers are extremely easy to handle. Pick up any sniper in this game and you can pull it out like any CQC weapons which is a huge problem somebody should not be able to whip out their sniper body shot then finish off with the primary it should take a few seconds to put away such long and big weapons not snap on our backs in a millisecond. Point two: Snipers shouldn't be two shots in destiny. Sniper are extremely powerful weapons which makes sense heavy damage in exchange for no CQC ability with it. However this isn't the case any sniper in this game LITERALLY any sniper can two shot a guardian and that isn't skill any scrub and me included can do this and it turns our favorite game types into who is the better sniper/dodger and the only part of the sniper meta that takes skill are dodging the bullets they come from the gun that practically guides them and the guardians who close that gap. (Trials of Osiris) Point three: Sniper in destiny have such high aim assist the game aims for the person plus no recoil for being shot or wobble. Now pretty much any sniper in any other game will penalize you in dorm way when you get shot in exchange for the pose I your hand destiny simply ignores it all and says "Oh I got shot? Well I can still pump two bullets into you or shoot you once in the body and finish you off with my Primary lol" that shouldn't be the case. Instead how about snipers have a wobble and you zoom out once shot. Similar to other fast pace game like Halo or CoD. Keep in mind these are PVP only changes! Not PVE ones! Edit 1: (remove due to valid points) Edit 2: Keep it up guys I want to have this discussion. Edit 3: agree or disagree I'm happy for how civil everyone has been thank you. Also I would appreciate it if everyone continue to bump this I want to have larger discussion about this getting more of the community involved.[/quote] Needs to be like team fortress. No ADS, No shot. Period.