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6/16/2016 10:39:10 PM
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My problem with economic socialism in the United States
Ok, so the few people on here that know me will recognize me as a pretty vocal socialist. For those of you that don't recognize me; I'm a pretty vocal socialist. Living in Washington State (which is a fairly pro-socialism state) the ideas behind socialism were always held as something to work towards. This was especially prevalent in the school system (both high school and college). My recent problems with socialism in the USA do not stem from a sudden dislike of the policies it entails, or because of how many people don't like socialism in the country as a whole. My problem with socialism (and by relation Bernie Sanders campaign [which let's be honest here is over]) is that outside of states which are very receptive towards it (Washington, Colorado, etc) those voting for socialism tend to just want free shit.
Now, my problem is not with giving people things. I donate a decent percentage of my income to charity and am known at work and with friends to always be willing to lend help however it is needed. My problems begin arising upon realizing that most people who want socialism [u][b][i]do not[/i][/b][/u] share my beliefs. They don't want to elect Sanders so they can help those in hard times. They want to elect Sanders so that they can get shit for free.
To clarify, my problem is not that people would be directly benefiting from voting for Sanders. My problem is that people would be voting for Sanders so specifically they themselves can benefit. That mentality really is not prevalent in Washington State as far as I've seen, but looking across the nation as a whole (especially the poorer areas), people couldn't care less about their communities or their neighborhoods. Hell, some of these people don't even care about their own families. All they heard was that Sanders would give them free shit and they were onboard.
TL;DR: Many would abuse this system and pervert it to suit their individual needs as opposed to benefiting society as a whole. Socialism requires a willing and generally selfless society to work, as in the United States things are very individualistic these policies and practices would ultimately fall the same way our current social programs are failing.
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15 RepliesEdited by DarthBrando: 6/17/2016 7:48:19 PMprivatization; problems: 1) no price regulation--> companies charging what ever they want for any product or service valid or not real or not; real life example---> 12$ for 1x 2" bandaid at the hospital an 1000$ per stitch for sutures, convenience fees, and charging by the byte for internet connection or service 2) no product regulation---> companies could sell harmful or lethal products that harm or kill their users with no repercussions; real life example---> alcohol and tobacco and pharmaceuticals 3) companies would be free to make their products highly addictive to inflate profits, real life example same as #2 4) no waste regulation for industrial waste, real life example; any 3rd world factory 5) companies would be free to under pay their employees to increase profits, creating a paid slave labor workforce, real life example; any factory in China or Mexico, Walmart, McDonald's so yea regulation and socially accommodated established channels of practice of business and rules are pretty required unless you purposely want to increase class inequality and poverty while exponentially increasing pollution and destruction of the environment and population while at same time degrading quality of all products and services
