A flawless trials passage should be a moment of triumph. I understand it's not easy for some people but if there's any real moment of triumph it's completing that 9-0 card
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Flawless is beyond 80% of players so never going to be included. However, I think it should have had a Trials element e.g. win 5 matches on a single Trials scorecard That's about same difficulty as defeating Oryx on Heroic
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[quote]A flawless trials passage should be a moment of triumph. I understand it's not easy for some people but if there's any real moment of triumph it's completing that 9-0 card[/quote] That would exclude so many. Congrats to you if you've done it.
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That excludes way too many players. They left it out of Year 1 MoT for the same reason.
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Agreed.
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I could see a completed trials passage ticket, just so everyone has to at least try trials. Maybe even require one victory on it. Flawless should not be a requirement though.
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Not easy for some? More like 86% or so of the player base.
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Do you have some real stats to show that?
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http://gamerant.com/destiny-trials-osiris-lighthouse-113/
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This was just the first week of ToO. Also that was 16% of the people who tried. Not really enough info to say the percentage of destiny players who have gone flawless.
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The first week of trials was in may 2015. The article was written in Nov 2015 and cited bungie's stats from the previous week.
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Sorry. I meant the first week of year 2.
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Bad idea.
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Yeah, but flawless is an achievement in and of itself. It has it's own rewards, emblem, shaders, and grimoire. There's no reason why it should be included in the MoT, except to satisfy elitist PvP players. The vast majority of the player base (myself included) had never gone flawless, never will, and hardly even play Trials. It would be hugely unfair to exclude them from this based on something that 1% of the player base has completed.
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I agree that flawless shouldn't be a Moment of Triumph but your reasoning is a little off base. Raids could be included in that very same explanation. (ie. " but [u]completing a Raid[/u] is an achievement in and of itself. It has it's own rewards, emblem, shaders, and grimoire. There's no reason why it should be included in the MoT, except to satisfy elitist PvE players.)
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I'm far from elite and have been many times.
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Your experience and view of your own skill is relative.
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If only bungie guarantees no red barring ddosing asshole in trials
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That would be extremely unfair to a majority of Destiny players.
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As long as it's retroactive going back into year one than yes, but I ain't doing that again.
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I agree with you. Went to the lighthouse in Year 1 and zero desire to do it again.