I'm considering quitting this game. The loot system rewards the worst players and a lot of people say that's because if you're on top you don't need gear. What that says is those guys are always going to suck and getting cool & rare gear will make them a god against those who devoted time, money and patience to learn new skills and tactics and get good. We're on top because we learned skills, earned gear and put in time to get there and level up. We want good gear and legendaries because we performed better after devoting time, money and patience and it's not fair that we perform our best and actually THINK about what the smartest moves are instead of bull rushing with a shotgun or assault rifle against 3 players of the boss surrounded by yellow bar enemies and we live and save the team a instead of meleeing devil walkers thinking "Yeah, snipers and rockets take a while so a knife that deals 5% of their damage is totally gonna do it and make me look like a pro to the rest". They act stupid and don't even try or lag and are inactive and get in your way so you get the crud. Amazing Bungie, I didn't know that because I'm 315 and would like 320 from IB that terrible teammates with 0.20 KD at 320 totally needed 320 gear. Screw that. Teammates flat out sucks. Matchmaking means I get an average 1.5-2 KD so I should face an experienced Trials Team with average 5 KD and maxed out or near maxed out gear and subclasses and get wrecked and not enjoy myself at all. Matchmaking also brought laggers, red and yellow bars and it takes forester to get a roster to fight in skirmish. Seriously, it used to take less than a minute, not it takes 2 minutes or more. The players all play their hardest too going sweaty and Destiny is meant to be a casual FPS with awesome abilities and guns that SOMETIMES gets intense and competitive. There is no doubt there are competitive games but Destiny is now trying to be like fast paced COD with crazy powerful guns and abilities making it ridiculous. Also, you come with so many idiots in strikes that just bull rush yellow bars with no abilities and lowest light in the group who get one shot then do the same crap again, revive you in front of the Boss, die and you have to restart. And again. And again. They just act stupid and get better gear too... It's pay to play. I play on PS3 so I don't have to pay PS Plus to do most of the activities on Destiny. Wait, you mean I bought TTK Legendary Eddition for PS4 for $40-60 and now have to pay more money to do most of the content that I ALREADY payed for? Yes, yes I do. Seriously, you shouldn't have made PS4 with current capabilities if you sell it for less and need money. What the heck? Make it for less and better quality than PS3 but not top tier like PS4 then charge for more so you don't get that stupid issue. All I all, find out what PS Plus is then add that to what you THINK TTK costs and you get over 60, maybe 100 for all I know. And guess what, you get 2 expansions most year 1 veterans already bought so technically, you're paying 60-100 for 1 expansion... It's stupid, now Rise of Iron is coming out only for next ten. I understand why it is not for legacy consoles because of fps, quality, etc. but what the heck? I've heard Bungie will make Rise of Iron somewhat like next gen version for legacy but not completely. So basically they're saying "you want full content, then buy ps4 or Xbox 1 with ps plus and Xbox live. You'll still get ripped off unless you're a hardcore destiny gamer with money to spend-just like I was, except take away the money. I loved this game people, I'm not a stupid hater, I'm a year 1 veteran getting sick of the same stuff over and over-but you won't get more ripped off of content." Lack of content. Where you might have gone for campaign in the beginning, shoot hordes, take cover, get heavy, use super and snipe boss gets old real quick and the lack of regards and quality is underwhelming. Seriously, new story means 5-10 new missions, 3-5 bosses, new enemy or an enemy with some new reskin and ability and more stuff to shoot at. Same ghost scans this, ghost scans that, "uh oh, the taken and give are coming, get behind that rock and pull out snipers and rockets and hope for the best. Yeah, pull out that sniper and let the boss have it!" It's underwhelming and boring. PVP is the only reason and that's sweaty with game modes and the same maps over and over. The quests and bounties suck. Seriously chaperone requires you to go have an exotic that most need to grind for with 10% chance of getting. Then you need 100 kills with TLW equipped and this is how it goes. 1 kill means 1 percent. 1 death means score it, you're back to 0. -1! With sweaty games and terrible teammates you're sure to be a god if you can get this done WITHOUT fireteam, friends, SRL. I have 48% but that's because I always pick fights I can win and I keep going down to 40 and back to 48. It's ridiculous. Thorn was 1 kill means 5, 1 death means -2. In the end, if you go positive you can do it. Just 1 MD average and you're good. Chaperone? Hope you die 1-3 times a round with 40-50 kills on average. Then guess what? Kill ultra with shotgun. 1 ultra is 6%. That's a total of 16-17 Ultra killed and you can only do that by dealing with stupid hordes and using time on a mission to get to the ultra. It's time consuming and ridiculously stupid to earn and finish with more underwhelming rewards. I love this game but it's getting stale and I'm not paying 400-500 on next gen console to pay another 60 for my legendary edition of TTK then pay 30-40 for Rise of Iron. All in all that's $400-600. WITHOUT TAX! :) DINT FORGET PS PLUS AND XBOX LIVE! This game just feels like a grind now. I'm considering Overwatch, COD, Crysis... I'm losing interest and this pay to play is stupid. Also, I've become noticeably more rude and impatient playing this. It's been fun and I like PVP but gosh, this is just stupid... Thanks for understanding if you do and I hope you understand if you don't right now. I really loved Destiny but now... Not so much.