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6/13/2016 6:20:40 PM
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Project Scorpio, Holiday 2017? WTF!

Advanced announcement is good.

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Microsoft just killed Xbox One S sales.

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I dunno'?

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Wow, there it is. Project Scorpio is real and Microsoft will release the ultimate Xbox hardware Holiday 2017. Part of me thinks Microsoft is following Sony's playbook, just like when Sony announced the PS2 to kill sales of Dreamcast. The other part of me thinks Microsoft is -blam!-ing nuts. Why would a consumer waste their money on an Xbox One S (which [i]starts at [/i]$300) when they can wait for the mac daddy of all gaming consoles? Also, why tell Sony the complete specs of your next console when Sony is also working on their next gen console? In furtherance of the insanity, Microsoft is telling consumers to wait until Holiday 2017 to invest in VR, because that's when VR is coming to Xbox. This announcement looks like a big middle finger to early adopters, hold-outs, and developers. The Project Scorpio news is especially ill-timed when Microsoft had so much to gain from it's $300 Xbox One S and improved connectivity and pay-once announcements. After all, the $300 PS3 Slim saved the PS3 from obscurity (and the PS3 went on to sell about the same number of units as the Xbox 360). The pay-once leverages Microsoft's PC dominance, even though most PCs can't run modern games. The looking-for-group and other friends features were another goodwill move, eviscerated by the now 1.5 year wait for Project Scorpio to make the current Xbox obsolete. I think Microsoft looked at their 33% marketshare in current gen consoles and decided they could burn some bridges by starting the next generation a few years early. What happens when you play your Xbox One S at 1080p and you get sniped by someone with Project Scorpio playing at 4K. They can see you just fine but to you, they look like a single pixel. Then there is the issue of having Project Scorpio owners playing at much higher framerate. This is what will happens when you mix console generations. (And this is the problem Sony will have with the PS4 Neo). Maybe I'm wrong and Project Scorpio will be awesome. Hence the vote.

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  • I think they did the right thing mentioning project Scorpio just so customers who by the Slim won't be pissed when the Scorpio does come out. The Slim looks pretty sweet and will be great for new people getting Xbox's. I don't think the Scorpio will be for everyone for quite a few years. When games start becoming Scorpio only they will probably release a Scorpio Slim

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  • Personally I love the move. They are flexing the muscle & money only MS has. On top of that it will force Sonys hand as well since Neo looks less powerful then the Scorpio. I am curious to see how they respond since they are the ones who constantly pointed out graphics and stuff and soon the tables will turn. It's also a good move because how would you feel if you bought a slim and then found out Scorpio was coming. Wouldn't that be a more dishonest approach? Also knowing I can by my Scorpio( it's a day 1 for me) but I can still play with my kids and friends who can't or are not ready to move to the new hardware is great.

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    • I'm happy it's coming out next year because I need to buy all of my hyped games this year.

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    • The reason they announced it so early is so devs can start developing for it as soon as possible. Also, while said devs are developing for it they don't have to keep it a secret.

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      • Ehh sale wise yeah. I prolly would have gotten a XBs if I didn't know about the Scorpio

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      • Edited by Retro_Spective: 6/14/2016 12:43:34 PM
        Probably better building a PC at this stage. Scorpio having that much power, yet it will still be held back by the original xb1. Developers will need to make games compatible on both. They should've just dropped support on the xb1, had scorpio as their new console. PC is starting look more consumer friendly...

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        • Sale wise they definitely should have waited... I was going to buy an Xbox One S, then they announced scorpio... I think I can wait another year to get a second Xbox One console.

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        • Consoles are dying people, Microsoft knows that.

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          • The S is mainly for those that haven't gotten a console yet.

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            • If its going to be the most powerful console out there, then it is what it is. Plus they did just announce the slim.

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            • If it really will be the "Ultimate" console of time with unbelievable features, we're looking at the minimum $700. Sacrifices I guess.

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              • I don't think Ps4 is gonna change everything now since their new system is due to launch later this year

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                • MS really pushes the "Play your way" thing hard. We will have three consoles to choose from come Holiday to suit our needs most. OG Bone for the Gamers who can't/won't upgrade. Slime Bone is the one for the ones who want crazy high storage, and/or 4K tv support. Scorpio Bone is the one for the VR junkies. In the end I might save up for a decent PC for the VR, then use cross play so I can play the Bone games on Windows 10.

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                  • My understanding is Xbox Scorpio is being targeted for so called " Hardcore gamer" which hardcore gamers that are probably a small % of gamers. While the Xbox slim is going to target a more casual gamer who might not made the jump from 360 to Xbox one. Me personally was going to get an Xbox one at the dropped price but will get the Xbox slim

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                  • I don't think they care about Xbox One S sales. Seems to me like biannual iPhone announcement. The hardcores can get it but most will wait.

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                    • Microsoft have a deal with AMD to get their chips for very cheap. IF PS neo wanted chips anywhere near that power they'd have to pay 100+ more for the same hardware.

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                      • You some broke ass babies. Get the Xbox one get the new sh*t after that. If money is so tight maybe you should just worry about the bills

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                      • They have over a year before it launches. MS can just keep upgrading or changing the hardware until then. Though i thought the Neo was launching th I year. There's also a chance i may upgrade my Xbone to the S (just a chance).

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                        • Whys no one asking how much that thing will cost? Its supposed to be oculus compatible as well as 4k gaming. I'm expecting it to be 600$ minium. Not a very consumer friendly price if its anywhere near that.

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                          • Because you won't [u][i]be forced[/i][/u] to upgrade. The Xbox one, S, and Scorpio are all compatible. The S is just a smaller xbone, and the Scorpio is going to provide better resolution and overall quality.

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                            • Announcing it now is Smart. Giving away the Specs so far in advance, probably not a smart move. Nintendo has NXT and Sony has Neo and neither of them are talking about their respective consoles at this E3. Both companies are in an ideal position to ask their cup/Gould vendors for some extra horsepower in order to help them compete with Microsoft's Scorpio.

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                              • Because the Mac Daddy of gaming consoles will have the Mac Daddy of gaming console price

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                              • and by that time pc hardware will be even greater than what they are gonna put in the xbox...kinda dumb waiting that long.

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                              • Xbox presented the Xbox One S that can support 4k gaming to be released around the same time as the PS4K (Neo). It is reasonably priced there for able to give sales to microsoft. Project Scorpio is there true device and releasing the specs was just to show that they are working on it and gives people a way to compare the Scorpio to the Neo.

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                                • Yes but keep in mind that such powerful console will cost more than $500 which will leave people unhappy about it but to me it's a fair price because of the hardware so don't get your hopes on expecting it to be no more than $400

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                                  • This is Sony's and Microsoft's plan to combat the fact that the hardware in their current gen consoles is very underpowered compared to whats available on the PC market (I also want to think they don't want Nintendo to gain any edge by offering a new console mid-generation). They announced it because they want to get people excited and didn't want Sony to have time to tear them apart like they did 3 years ago. I'm guessing they wanted to beat Sony to the punch in the minds of consumers. This time they didn't mention anything about price or restrictions to avoid the negative feedback the Xbox One got when it was announced.

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