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Edited by Astral Centipede:
6/13/2016 9:25:07 PM
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Missed Lore Opportunities #ThatsSoEmperorRaven
The books of Sorrow mentions Oryx taking countless species long before his arrival to the Solar System, and I think the April Update would have been the perfect opportunity to add just one individual from one of those other species. Instead we got Malok, another Hive Knight that happened to be Taken, and a head made of chewing gum (so creative).
For example, in the Books of Sorrow, Oryx took the emperor of a birdlike species. She was really formidable, and able to cut through the "war moons," the Hive used as ships for mass transport.
[quote]On the fifth pace, the Tai Emperor Raven comes home to her Bridge, and she cuts a moon with her talons, she cuts it open and kills its brood.
On the sixth pace, Oryx speaks, saying, listen to me, Emperor Raven, and I will describe to you the Last True Shape, which is written on my tablet. And he puts out his fist, full of black fire, and he swallows up the Emperor Raven with a wound.
Aiat! Only Oryx knows this power, the power to take.
On the seventh pace, the Perfect Raven comes out of Oryx’s wound, and she spreads her wings across Taishibeth. Never again is a Taishibethi child born. She is perfect, she enacts the will of Oryx. (Verse 4:0 — a golden amputation)[/quote]
#ThatsSoEmperorRaven
THAT is what I wanted to fight. Malok had a fairly unique model for a Hive knight, so I think the resources to make a member of a completely new (or ancient) species were there. The whole Taken era is passing though, so the opportunity is likely gone, but a lesson can be learned from it. This is not just about the April Update; this is just one example of a missed opportunity to bring the lore into the game, and the disconnect between the universe of the lore and the universe of the game.
[b]Bungie, If you have a completely valid and perfect opening like this to bring your lore into the game, please take it next time.[/b] I hope there's someone in the writing department fighting for this kind of thing. Without that, I don't think we will ever see lore figures like Savathun, Xivu Arath, Taox, or the Emperor Raven in a Destiny game, instead, we'll just get random ones pulled out of the devs' bums like "Nokris" and "Malok." The universe of the game and the universe of the lore should feel like the same thing, but they don't.
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1 ReplyEdited by bobswerski: 6/13/2016 5:28:35 PMAlways a good read, Kagehoshi. Honestly, the real explanation is going to be the same old boring and mundane "limited resources". The choice of a Hive Knight tasked with tending to the local shrine of Oryx allows them to easily use the existing map for the new strike. Not a great answer but a large part of it. The story is also quite plausible and does add something to the Hive backstory at least. That tricky broad Savathun put a spy into Crota/Oryx's midst, tending to his Shrine, no less. Oryx finds out and "takes" him. Once Oryx falls, this same guy, who was never loyal to Oryx in the first place, tries to take the throne (pun intended) by channeling the old Shrine's power in some way. He is Hive, so his attempting to take over is both expected and desirable to the rest of the species. I don't know you could say the same about a taken emperor of another species. I agree that is much less interesting than bringing in an entirely new enemy but only lore nuts like us would have any clue who it was. Having to explain not only who it was, but how and why a Taken version of the emperor of some now-extinct species many light years away suddenly appeared in our system without being involved in any way with previous events is a little outside the scope of a small-scale strike the live team put together. A better place for something like that would have been inside the Dreadnought or the ascendant realm but this was all the tale of the greater Hive, Oryx's hive, not the powerful but nonetheless small contingent on the Moon. Bringing in all these other species would absolutely be interesting but arguably adds only a little to [i]that[/i] story. Edit: And why would/should we assume that Oryx keeps all these old champions around once he has destroyed their species? Sure, it's possible that singularly powerful ones like the Emperor Raven would be deemed useful but otherwise these species have been judged as unfit to exist and it would seem to me that the sword logic would dictate that Oryx consume them to feed his worm once the rest of them have been exterminated.
