I would like to preface my main point by saying I am a left-wing individual on most issues. I support same-sex marriage, I am pro-choice, I support the legalization and decriminalization of all drugs, and I am a populist in nature, being a proud opponent of large businesses like Walmart.
This is what fellow progressives and I agree on; the fundamental principles of equal opportunity, social justice and freedom. However, what I see fellow liberals and I debating the most, is the value of all human life; specifically the value of the profoundly disabled.
My question to everyone, is.[i] Why do we spend millions of dollars every year to aid individuals that will never actually be a productive member of society? [/i] The people I'm talking about, aren't people with high-functioning learning disabilities or physical limitations. I'm talking about severe mental deficiencies; people, who function at the level of a small child, at best.
I don't hate these people by any means, I simply don't get why governments fund these people instead of just [b]giving the families of these people the option[/b] to simply euthanize them. Of course speaking hypothetically, that process would not be taken lightly, and rightly so. We would be dealing with the value of a human life, and this is most likely, the answer to my own question; that morality outweighs prosperity. The ultimate question here, is as follows...
[i]Do you personally support the voluntary and optional euthanasia of the mentally disabled?[/i]
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Left wing......triggered, muted and reported👍👌
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Because life is more than simply being useful. Art isn't useful, it doesn't sustain an economy or help medical advancement, yet people do it all the same.
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Eugenics! Woohoo! Let's kill off all the mentally ill genes!
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[quote][i]Do you personally support the voluntary and optional euthanasia of the mentally disabled?[/i][/quote] No, I don't agree with most liberal's but I don't think they should be euthanized.
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The mildly retarded can be trained to do jobs and even live on their own. Those with IQs below 40 (if I'm remembering correctly) are the hopeless ones.
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If someone's going to die, you might as well let the decide how. I'm all for it, for terminal patients that are 16+. Any available organs should also be donated though.
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Only the one in their own shoes should decide if their life's worth living
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I support the right to euthanize all SJWs, Feminists, and Liberals.
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Another thought: Where do you get the authority or insight to judge the value of another's life? How can I say that another's life isn't worth living? How can I pretend to know?
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It's very similar to the dividing line on choice/life. Another commentator said it better than me: "You either believe human life is inherently valuable or you do not."
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This sounds like China.
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You could have just said [quote]im a filthy commie[/quote] And I would have understood your views
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Completely agree with you. I'm also for just putting down the babies who are known to have psychical or mental limitations, as there's no point in keeping a deficient child when you can easily make a new one. More money than necessary is being pumped into useless acts.
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Edited by ALoafOfBagels: 6/1/2016 3:32:05 AMSo let me get this straight; You are against big business. So am I. But, you are against the government's funding of mental disability programs, because someone who is mentally disabled most likely won't have a chance to work at maximum efficiency? At where? A walmart? A gas station? Perhaps a McDonalds? Would you rather them be working for those huge businesses that are on the top of their food chain, making millions of dollars? Let me also mention that I as well lean left, but am more middle of the road. In Minnesota, there are currently dozens of programs being passed to enable mentally disabled people to get a job. And honestly; no one I've seen is an inefficient worker. There was recently a clip on the news putting one of those programs in the spotlight, and I found it very interesting and now that you bring up a relevant topic I found this amusing. I'll search my state's news channel and see if I can find it.
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Is economic productivity the sole measure of a person's life? What a sorry state we live in if that's true.
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Edited by shell: 6/1/2016 3:37:34 PMI agree. Let's go kill Stephen Hawkings.
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Edited by InvasiveIowa: 6/1/2016 1:47:11 AMI agree with you but you have to admit there's little to no chance of that ever happening.
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Lol you got an honest discussion because you said you're on the progressive left. You'd be torn the shreds and called every name in the book 50 times over if you stated you were on the right. [spoiler]if someone wants to die then that's their decision. Someone shouldn't make that decision for them. Unless of course they broke the law and their freedoms have been taken from them.[/spoiler]
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I think it should be the choice of the person who is handicapped to decide, but if they are completely brain dead then it's more kind to just off. (Let me clarify that by saying that they would have to be almost a vegetable for it to be out of their hands.)
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didn't hitler euthanise (sorry for the bad spelling) the mentally incapable/impaired. i see your point, and kind of agree, but they [i]are[/i] people, u kno?
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Edited by WartyBean39438: 6/1/2016 1:20:24 AMSomeone else had your idea...[spoiler] but he caused WW2 and the Holocaust. [/spoiler]
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I don't know why liberals keep misspelling "regressive" with "progressive" . Guns are here to stay, identity politics is a cancer, women are not the same as men, and just because socialistic policies work in northern Europe doesn't mean they will work in America.
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If I ever get a disease like Dementia or Alzheimer's, then I want to be killed, because I would be a walking husk without the major elements that give me my individuality.
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[quote][i] Why do we spend millions of dollars every year to aid individuals that will never actually be a productive member of society? [/i] [/quote] I agree. We spend way too much money on governmental welfare programs.
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Just stop. Nothing good comes from the left. You "progressives" aren't even "progressive". The left only cares about people who care about what they care about. If you disagree you "should be killed or beat up". Sounds like my home country before Dec. 1991.