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5/22/2016 9:36:38 PM
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Banning players for their connection is asinine.
Bungie trying to blame their customers for their incompetence.
No more bans on those with bad internet. The problem isn't them, it's your bad SBMM settings that match them with players that are laggy.
This is ridiculous, NO MORE BANS ON ACCOUNTS OVER CONNECTION
Why don't you BAN THE ACTUAL CHEATERS IN THE CRUCIBLE THAT ARE EXPLOITING A HEAVY AMMO GLITCH.
Bungie is going down the toilet with their banning.
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[quote]Bungie trying to blame their customers for their incompetence. No more bans on those with bad internet. The problem isn't them, it's your bad SBMM settings that match them with players that are laggy. This is ridiculous, NO MORE BANS ON ACCOUNTS OVER CONNECTION Why don't you BAN THE ACTUAL CHEATERS IN THE CRUCIBLE THAT ARE EXPLOITING A HEAVY AMMO GLITCH. Bungie is going down the toilet with their banning.[/quote] F*** bungie
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I completely agree. I get reported all the time for "network manipulation" and "lagswitching". To put myself bluntly, I have terrible internet. My router is roughly 30 feet away from my bedroom, Time Warner Cable gave us a router/modem combo that works better as a paperweight or a doorstop. On a good day, I pull 6 Mbps. On bad days, I can pull less than 500 Kbps. I have NO CONTROL over my connection problems, yet I get I have gotten 2 Crucible restrictions and no-one is willing to hear me out due to their policy.
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4 RepliesHaters be hating on your post hard. Not surprising given the kinds of people who you expect to still be playing this game. Ah well.
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This is why I'm not playing destiny till I move to austin and get google fiber
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3 RepliesIf u r using bad Wi-Fi, then u should be banned... #hardwired
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It should happen more
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84 RepliesIts not just asinine, its more close to being discrimination. Not everyone can afford high speed internet, and in the case of SBMM for ANY game, if you aren't using dedicated servers then its straight up impossible to avoid these kinds of instances. You can't punish the players for a system they have no control over. And considering the Crucible is quite literally the ONLY thing that is holding up Destiny (How many strictly PvE players do you think honestly still play this game?), all this succeeds in doing is driving off more of their dwindling playlist populations. And for anyone who thinks the game can handle anymore screw ups causing people to leave? Well, let's just say there's a reason Activision refuses to release any actual statistics about it, instead bragging about how many "registered" players there are as opposed to how many are actually active. =P
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Ran into a team of red bars today that walked threw a team of good players today all because they could port and not loose shields then I'd die and suddenly I would get the kill..I did record it its fuks like you that make this game so dam frustrating not the weapons not the supers not the classes it's the fuking hood net players that steal that McDonalds wifi.
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No ... banning you from PvP is fine. Banning from the game is stupid.
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If you lag and kill people when you shouldve died and you know you shouldve died, you are an ass plain and simple. Dont play crucible if you red bar for entire matches
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Remember, it's not about bandwidth (3mb adsl is OK, 300mb not necessary at all) it's about latency (aka lag).
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I really don't think distance is a problem. Im in the usa and play with friends that are in england we rarely ever red bar while playing together. It comes down to the internet provider but you're right players shouldn't get banned. Bungie needs to ban lag switchers and cheaters in general.
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The vast majority of lag/latency or high ping is due to distance. SBMM dose not take this into account and continues matchmake people on opposite sides if the planet with pings of over 200ms. Until matchmaking is regionalised as it is in 90% of PvP games (for good reason) and Bungie matches using CBMM WITH LESS THAN 100ms ping banning is not an option, it's Bungies matchmaking issue. Once they have done all they can to match people correctly then they could entertain banning. Mess this up and they will lose even more players. These are solutions Bungie themselves pioneered years ago in other games but have taken a massive step backwards in destiny for reasons still unexplained?
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It's dumb because a bad connection is subject to everyone's distance from eachother then the ISP the span of said as ISP as in number of customers. Then the hardware the user owns or rents as in modem and router. Distance from the router. Not just for Wi-Fi the wire even effects speeds not to a great degree but it can. If there are breaks and shorts in the wire. So I can get banned because out of the what 13 million people reported playing now WORLD WIDE. I can be banned because a isp speeds conflict or have a latency from playing people in other continents that just sucks.
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5 RepliesThat's why people should get better wifi, than sticking with their McTrash Wifi, its not hard to get better wifi
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1 ReplyNegative. While dedicated servers would make things a little smoother, it won't fix much. While CBMM would make things a little smoother, there's still a giant skill gap to account for. The simple fact is, asinine would be the percentage of people who waste their money on consoles, games, season passes, XBoX live/PSN subscriptions and anything else you've purchased in the last decade, and refused to just get better Internet. Rural you say? Here's an idea, move? You have options, but lack the monetary element to accommodate the upgrade, get a new job? There are plenty of options. But here's the most asinine part of all, everyone would rather cry about how it's not fair that they are being prevented from ruining millions of other people's experiences, including their own, rather than just doing what is needed to rectify their own personal situation. That, my friend, is asinine.
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2 RepliesI agree for the most part but if someone clearly has potato connection, like 150-200ms ping they should definitely be stopped from ruining other players games online.
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7 RepliesI agree to some extent but for the people who have garbage connections, how hard is it really to get better internet...
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2 RepliesThey should have been doing this months ago. More bans for bad internet. It's not hard to figure out. Cheap internet might work for multi-player card games on your phone, but doesn't work for a massive multi-player online game. I don't have the best internet service package offered, but it also isn't the cheapest. On rare occasions I'll be red bar (during a thunderstorm) but I realize it. So I don't play. I think a permanent ban should apply to players that have been warned and don't upgrade their internet.
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Let me tell you something. Anyone who is a red bar that claims their internet is working fine is full of crap. You may think it's fine for certain things but you are ignorant on your networking prioritization works. it's your responsibility to fix it. I play over a Verizon MiFi 4G hotspot. So I'm connected [b]wirelessly[/b] to a [b]Wireless[/b] 4G hotspot. When I do a test on my PS4 i get an average download of maybe 20 - 25 MB and average 10 - 15 MB upload. That's way less then your average cable type broadband and I am rarely if [b]ever [/b]redbar. If it looks like I'm running bad I reboot the MiFi and I'm all good. I take responsibility for my connection so A) I don't ruin it for others and B) I don't get reported and banned myself. If you're really not a cheater then fix your sh!t and stop complaining when you get reported and banned.
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Ok so I've been banned from crucible for a week and trials for two months. I've rarely red bared or lagged in either crucible I left because it wasn't fun for me and trials I avoided red bar being that I didn't want to lag out and get a loss. So I pretty irritated that I've been banned from the only thing I play on destiny because some body on the other team couldn't get a kill or had bad connection them self. So what I wanna know is, I thought bungie was only gonna ban the lag switchers not the devoted players?
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I disagree. If you're ruining the experience for everybody else then you should be banned.
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Anyone with a [i]consistently[/i] bad connection doesn't belong in PvP. Not with a connection running off what seems to consist of a mouse's wheel, a toothpick and a crisp packet.
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5 RepliesI can't find the post, but someone actually worked out Destiny's netcode, and the minimum amount required to play Destiny is only around 1mb/s 200kb upload. Basically a cellphone could run Destiny. So poor connections unless your on 1990's dial up isn't the problem. It's the fact that SBMM connects you to people on the other side of the world, instead of your own neighborhood or even continent. Every other Developer ditched SBMM almost immediately, yet Bungie so stubborn they are "going to make it work" no matter how much people complain or leave the game over it. At this point it's like beating a dead horse. If X amount of bandwidth is required, then it should be stated so on it's packaging. It's only fair! As when I buy a PC game I look at the "requirements" to see if I have enough ram, video card etc. If I don't I don't buy the game, simple as that. And the other problem is that Bungie hasn't defined a "Poor Connection" It might be a slow connection. Or it might be someone who has a 25mb/s, but is very spiky and temperamental. Or it might be someone who has a extremely low set MTU.
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1 ReplyAlright alright. I'm awake. Imma throw my two cents in here. Some may like it. some may not. After Reading the Article about this. Yes I will sort of agree with the OP here. HOWEVER just banning and restricting due to internet is on the idiocy side. THEY need to monitor the persons ping, and inconsistency of their internet. If someone has a low internet. like those in rural areas. they shouldnt be banned, but matched with people that has the same ping. On WF we have the option to take and match make with people of a certain ping. Now. those with inconsistent ping. should be banned. Example. someones ping is 67. and then shoots up. to 1k ping. This here is likely a lag switcher. therefore needs banned. I agree with banning Exploiters as well. Not much to say on that.
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2 RepliesThey should ban anyone with a kd lower than 1.
