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Edited by Draco_Mantis: 5/9/2016 1:14:46 PM
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Sexism in raids.

So I have a concern I would like to express. Both my girlfriend and I are avid Destiny players. We both love raiding and doing POE and all of it. We both love PvE and PvP. My concern comes in this, we do have a group that will do all of these things with us. But as it stands all of us have jobs and/or school. So sometimes it is difficult to get all of us together. So what my girlfriend and I do is get a team of randoms. Why is it that just because she is a woman that plays games she gets automatic passes into every group there is. Yet I have to pass some sort of test. We will even ask for groups with room for two for both of us. And as soon as they find out she is a woman they will invite her anyway and tell her to ditch me. I have even had groups hit on her while I am in the chat. She is an amazing woman and tells them to stop or we are both leaving. Most of the time we have to end up leaving because they wont stop. I have even heard a guys girl yell at him to stop or she would break up with him. Just because she is a woman she gets treated like a slut from multiple other people. Why is this a thing. When did disrespect become the common thing. Edit: Thanks for the responses guys. I also have an experience to add that I forgot to mention on here. I have one female character which is my warlock. Well while on my warlock and with my girlfriend, A random guy at the tower decided to try and add us both. And as he put it he thought he it the jackpot. Like wtf is wrong with people that is so wrong and disrespectful it isn't even funny. Edit: OK. To say for the record the reason I said sexism is the derogatory statements made because of her gender. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of gender roles. This is the definition of sexism as taken from dictionary.com. those fall under sexism. if you are going to try and bash me for just voicing a concern, at least get your facts straight before you do. Edit: Yes i Know all woman get hit on. That's the nature of males. I am talking about the way it is being done. Plain out disrespect in the things being said. I wonder if some of these things they said to a woman if they would ever dream to ever say them in person, or better yet in front of someone else. Edit: This is just voicing a concern. Thinking out loud. Asking a question. Whatever you want to call it.

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  • There are gender roles. They exist. It will never end.

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    • Because Nerds

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    • Way too long to read, but perhaps I can help. Did she bring sandwiches?

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      • just desperate guys after some pum pum..

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      • Don't take it serious. My wife plays too and she laughs at their attempts to hit on her. The more you play it cool, the better it will be for the both of you. Confidence is key, if she is really into you then you've got nothing to worry about.

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      • My suggestion is find a good clan that isn't immature and stick with them. Too many asshats that plague this community. Have your friends play with em too just so your web of friends gets bigger.

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      • But how do we know you're a woman or a man , you could be a woman talking from experience and just made up the boyfriend thing

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      • lol get thicker skin... Or maybe do something else with your gf. You really think people care if she gets hit on in a game? Lol. You sound like such a pathetic beta kid. There are ways to approach people when they hit on your gf. Most guys take it as a compliment.

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        • I don't know. Because people suck?

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        • You expect to use sexism on the internet. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE! I thought you were a feminist at first but i understand kind of. Just mute not only do you get raid done you dont listen to them thought of that?

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        • Does the phrase "ladies first" ring a bell?

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          • I dont hit on girls when they join my group, i just tell her that she sounds fat and kick her. Much nicer

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            • OP you -blam!-ing alpha, you. [spoiler]she isn't going to be your gf much longer if you don't stop bitching about dumb shit to random strangers on the internet. You may as well have a vagina, honestly. Those guys are doing what's natural, they're competing to take your spot. And you're letting her stand up for YOU. Which is kinda sweet, I guess. My point is this: stop being a bitch.[/spoiler]

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            • I seriously lold

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            • Motherf*cker!!!!

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            • Edited by c a 1 r b: 5/9/2016 2:45:09 PM
              I have a female titan, and I'm a guy. This is a reason I don't have many friends, because the people that I try to be friends with, as explained down below, will judge me, and i have stopped trying. (I just think less bulky, female armor looks better.) I'm also sorry for those female gamers out there that are treated like this, because I think female gamers are awesome.

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            • Hey OonaDracomagus, I think the issue is the maturity level of the kids you're running into while pubbing. I'm a member of an adult oriented clan founded by a woman. We have multiple women in the clan. We are all friends and respect one another, and we have a lot of fun playing this game together. We are like a family. At the end of the day, it's just people. Everyone is different. Relationships aren't easy. You need to find the right group of people you want to spend time with. You can't just push a button and have the perfect clan relationship. It takes work and it takes time, but I'm sure there is a group of people out there you and your girlfriend can feel at home with. If you're interested, check us out... https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/1419534 We're always looking for members who are adults and love playing this game and enjoy each others company. You guys sound like you might be a perfect match for us.

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            • Lol. I was playing trials this friday with two girls that I was play with. One of em is my bff and we play pretty well tho! We went flawless, and their gamertags both have their real names : Bianca and Anne. We lost the first round on the 9th match but we managed to do 5-1. They tbagged us in the 1st round. Suddenly, right when we were in the lighthouse I received a TON of messages, hate messages btw. All talking trash about my friends because they were women, they said shit about their parts and stuff... Really got me mad I stopped playing that day. This world sucks sometimes :/

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              • unfortunately there are many poorly behaved, disrespectful, young apes in the gaming world who can't get ladies in real life so they take to the internet to try to peacock away their shortcomings to people who can't be bothered to prove otherwise. also a lot of boys play who haven't become men yet or learned proper manners. you can often tell by their negativity, derogatory comments, insults, and improper grammar.

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              • Not sexism, it just plain fuking stupid...but I see your point.

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              • Ive had a russian women join my raid team, and my raid team didn't care that she was female, we just called her dude or her PS3, the guys would get upset when she tried speaking English, luckily I'm good at understanding what she was trying to say

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              • I'm a mature adult. I play with everybody no matter their race or gender. Don't play with children and you won't have this problem. Join an 18yrs and older clan and you won't have this problem. Coming here to rant only fuels ignorance.

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              • Let me go care real quick

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