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5/2/2016 7:06:05 PM
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As is shoulder charge, and in some cases a landed firebolt, in others a scatter grenade.
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Shoulder charge takes time to build up and is close range while running you can't shoot. Wombo is a grenade and a slow instantly from any range(yes the further you are the harder to hit)and can start shooting the target. My solution a 1.5 second delay between grenade and melee when using toxic smoke and Maybe lessen the slow by 10%-20%
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Wombo combo takes time to regenerate abilities between uses. Shoulder charge is used all you want as Long as you sprint.
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It also has a cool down and can get screwed by sprint lock,also shoulder charge like I said you can't shoot you are literally running into someone majority of the time shoulder charge isn't that hard to dodge or gun them down where as wombo is near impossible.Yes wombo uses abilities but that doesn't change the fact it's a 99% of the time a guaranteed kill.
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Actually it only lasts 8 seconds (12 with stand asides but why would you use those?!)
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8 seconds is a long time to find a target and charge them in these small maps.
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Edited by GHOST 9o5: 5/2/2016 7:18:09 PMWRONG. You are taking it out of context. Shoulder charge requires a pre-run up, a semi-planned hit must be organized.. The only issue is the fact that you can run into a wall. Other than that, steps could be taken to avoid something that you can counter. Shotgun? Distance? A scatter grenade is usually set up and can be escaped from. Never been killed by a directly thrown scatter nade, never will. You can also escape from them. A Firebolt cannot OHKO with only the burn. You still have to work to get their health down low. It is still however broken. If you throw it mid-shooting, you're probably dead anyway. The point is that in most situations it is an insta win with no/little pre-planning required. Two guys see each other, one of them throws both the smoke and vortex nade. It's over for the other guy. He can't do anything, he's lost. The best he can ensure is a trade. The only way to act against it is to keep distance. But with the other user having ShadeStep.. Not the easiest.
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Edited by RingersCheckmate: 5/2/2016 7:21:09 PMWombo combo is forcefully needing a charge between uses (unlike shoulder charge) And a Firebolt/scatter grenade can turn a fight around and make it an instant win as long as you know how to shoot your weapon.
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Who cares? It's still overpowered as it is. An insta win button is foolish. It ruins your vision and disables your grenades (Been a while, can't remember) The excuse is redundant when it was used for other classes and didn't work. The thing is, the other people have their abilities before dying of they do happen to do so. They still retain many things from what smoke takes away.
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If you're bitching about Insta win buttons you must really hate fist havoc and nova bomb.
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[quote]If you're bitching about Insta win buttons you must really hate fist havoc and nova bomb.[/quote] There goes your argument. Lol I'm not angry about anything. Those are [b]supers.[/b] The grenade and "melee" are simple abilities, that regenerate in roughly 30-45 seconds.
