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Edited by Jei:
5/21/2016 3:15:42 AM
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Why all the hate on the "Wombo Combo"
For all you who dislike the so called "Wombo Combo" ask yourself this, was it really so bad? The nightstalker class was an amazing addition for the Hunter, especially since they lacked what is needed for a so called "PvE class" back in year one. All is good in this subclass but one thing, the grenades! The only somewhat effective grenade is the vortex grenade, and without lockdown it's almost completely useless. Using the smoke grenade (while sacrificing invisibility for poison) [b]with[/b] the vortex grenade made an excellent and effective grenade for a subclass without one.
But at what cost? You have to use both your grenade charge and melee charge, along with a slot that can give your allies bonus armour and recovery, or drop more orbs. To me this seemed like a balanced combo since alone these two grenades were almost completely useless. Especially in a world where both other classes have a grenade that can either one hit you, or cause some serious damage.
Edit: I have no issues with Walocks and their firebolt. For a hunter I am also pro warlock, just though I should clear that up since so many ppl assume I complain about that.
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Because smoke has no other use. Also I think the game was better off without nightstalker.
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I personally think people are super jealous of our sweet duskbow.
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If it also didn't remove the radar then I wouldnt have a problem. To be trapped in smoke and a vortex or whatever is fine i guess because you have to waste a nade and a melee but it shouldn't remove the radar.
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As a guy with only titans i have no hate for hunters or any of their abilities.
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Why all the hate on Firebolt? First of all it takes two perks to use so it's perfectly fair
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Yea i mean its like the only effective way to use your smoke (besides vanish in smoke i like to use that) because the grenade is so avoidable and the smoke is just a way to make you stay in it. (but i agree its kinda cheap but its part of the game so just deal with it)
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Cuz is cheap
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2 RepliesWombo combo and firebolts are fantastic. We know what happens to fantastic things in destiny right? Doesn't matter what any of us say, anything strong or overused will have its day of reckoning.
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People also have to keep in mind that this is the MELEE of the subclass. If u get up close in a melee fight, ur done. The other guy would have a melee that does significant damage and also some kind of other ability. The only thing smoke would do at this point would put some gunk on the other persons screen. They would still be able to melee. This why smoke is balanced. There's a trade off, especially in the perk tree
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I main hunter. I do think the smoke Is a bit too strong. I got good at sticking people with tripmines so doing the same with smokes is not hard. If I stick someone with smoke he's dead. 3 shots with my AR to finish him. The wombo combo might be even easier because you just throw both nades and walk away because you're getting the kill. Smoke should be nerfed a bit by decreasing the slow effect or the duration of the smoke.
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Edited by Sniper: 4/29/2016 3:35:01 PMThe exact same argument can be made for firebolts because we have to sacrifice two perk trees to make firebolts effective.
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pve it's good. but pvp that shit is annoying. Especially when people abuse it
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1 ReplyForums feed me your salt.
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2 RepliesThe wobbler cobbler!?
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I really want to read all these posts , but im still burning from that warlock grenade............
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3 RepliesJust the fact that your melee (smoke) has crazy range and does 3 debuffs at once. Getting hit by smoke gives you like a 90% chance of death
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5 RepliesEdited by PVBeachin: 4/29/2016 12:48:45 PMOk if the wombo combo is fine then sunsinger firebolt grenades with extra burn are fine. By your logic, it uses up several perks that could be used for something else, so it isn't OP.
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Edited by KannibalKlown: 4/29/2016 12:43:43 PMIt's all about "panick" When I throw a pulse or some other DoT grenade, it's funny watching the two classes of players A) The person that casually steps out of it B) The person that doesn't know what to do, running back and forth INSIDE the grenade area, probably still in ADS. B-people tend to die from a simple Vortex grenade all by themselves. Same thing with wombo combo. Myself (and others) just walk backwards or to the side out of it. I usually survive wombo combo, and many survive attempts of mine. Unless the pulse grenade lands RIGHT at my feet and I wasn't paying attention that there was a wall behind me or something. But I guess there are too many "B" people out there.
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Edited by Jonnnys: 4/29/2016 12:43:00 PMI prefer playing against firebolts than night stalkers, I dont think they should change anything, what else has night stalker got going for it in pvp.
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4 RepliesEdited by Hazarduz5: 4/29/2016 8:47:59 AMThe smoke is bs. Y Do you think there is so much hate for no reason? Yea we all just like moaning about perfectly balanced stuff because we like moaning. When did you ever see anyone bitch about boolean gemini?? No mida and doctrine cos they bs!!!!
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It's sad that kids these days don't know what the real wombo combo is.
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I don't have that much of a problem with it, but if I am out of the radius and still slowed, slightly blinded and poisoned and on low health then I get pissed off (slightly)
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1 ReplyI think it's balanced because nightstalkers have the worst super in the game plus Titans have shoulder charge warlocks have a year long burn
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4 RepliesHitler was not that bad. Communism was not that bad. Rap is not that bad. Vietnam was not that bad. The 2008 recession was not that bad. Only because you add those last 4 words it doesn't make it true.
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11 RepliesBecause we just have to sit there and wait to die instead of losing a fair gunfight. It's annoying...
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At least with firebolts you can shoot back or run away and hide. This literally locks you in place, blinds you, and damages you leaving you with barely any way to defend yourself. Not crying for a nerf because nerfs are bad, just comparing it to firebolts which people want nerfed for some reason.
