I always thought the whole concept of "natural" and "unnatural" was extremely flawed and downright stupid. Let me explain. Okay, what is nature? Well, the natural world. Reality is nature. Every process in the universe is a natural process.
One might say "well if humans are the driving force of a process that makes that process artificial."
Why response is always: Why? Humans are biological beings. We're -blam!-ing animals.
Literally. We're primates. You don't call the process of a forest growing "unnatural." You don't call a beaver damn "unnatural." But, when humans build a building it's an "unnatural structure." -blam!-ing why!? That's complete nonsense.
You cannot talk about biological life as being natural and then single out humans are being some beings of unnaturalism. We exist in nature, as a part of nature and everything we do is natural.
Which mean guess what? Homosexuality is natural. So is murder! Some -blam!-ing element we made for only 0.25 seconds before it decayed away was naturally created because it was produced by the product of a natural biological process.
Long story short; the human language is -blam!-ing stupid and makes no god damn sense. Natural is a horrible word that is empty and meaningless.
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We get it, you have a thing for trans.
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Nature - the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations Unnatural - contrary to the ordinary course of nature; abnormal
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Agreed.
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Can the earth make a -blam!-ing concrete bridge? Can it make a -blam!-ing Metallic structure? With nails and shit? Surveys say NOPE!
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The word natural is unnatural.
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Unnatural refers to something that is out of the ordinary and does not usually occur. Basically, buildings are "natural" in a city environment, but unnatural in a jungle.
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So essentially you're trying to take spinozism and apply it to a social conflict? It would be easier to just argue through nihilism.
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I've had that thought my entire life
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Though your reasoning is sound! Anything that can be made is natural else it couldn't exist as it would be "dark matter" however we are able to bring about conditions that aren't found in nature (or are so rare that the elements produced are rarer than rocking horse poop) so yes the physics & processes required are natural but the materials made aren't always! ;)
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Who are you trying to convince?
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I've thought of this in the shower. Crazy shit
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So, jacking off into a traffic cone is natural?
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If something is natural it has evolved within the confines of an ecosystem and if it's unnatural it's artificially made.
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Lel you made this thread after getting rekt in your other tranny thread
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Edited by Clone148: 4/30/2016 10:35:58 PMI'd say we separated from nature once we started to use intricate thought and creativity to dominate our environment, but that's just my thoughts on it
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Edited by Tux: 4/30/2016 2:26:07 PMReported for "gory violence/explicit sexuality"
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Man. What a good post.
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I agree with you. I think the meaning of being unnatural though is that it's self-destructive (i.e. producing and throwing away plastics that will never decompose in several dozen human lifetimes, or polluting our atmosphere faster than we can find a solution to it, or anything else unsustainable). All natural, yes, but ultimately self-destructive.
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If I build a laser cannon it's not natural.
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The word 'natural' has a clearly defined meaning that you're misinterpreting. The problem isn't with the word or the concept, but with your understanding of it.
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You make a good point. You know i like that your not doing religious threads this is way better
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Edited by The Arxfiend: 4/30/2016 7:46:15 AM[quote]Some -blam!-ing element we made for only 0.25 seconds before it decayed away was naturally created because it was produced by the product of a natural [b]biological[/b] process.[/quote] That's wrong. Also Unnatural: contrary to the forces of nature. I don't know about you, but biologically, fish are the only natural transgendered animals. Because they do not need the assistance of a synthetic object to change genders.
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This is auctually completely true. Now I have an argument for expansion of cities other then we are the at the top of the food chain.
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Of course you had to bring homosexuality into this.
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Something that isn't natural: [spoiler]Your dick[/spoiler]
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Is religion natural?