You know, people say that to me all the time, and i have to disagree with you 100%. Edit: just to be clear, challenge is not the issue. I actually did do everything you mentioned in your example (LOVED FF7 by the way) and one of my favorite accomplishments is beating Dead Space 2 on the highest possible difficulty. Talk about a challenge. The difference is, i did those things solo. I didn't rely on anyone, and the mechanics of those challenges weren't designed in such a way as to FORCE me to rely on others to get through. Raids force me to rely on another person's skill, and i absolutely hate that. If i can't solo it, i don't want to do it, and if i have to do it with a team, then it just isn't fun for me.