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4/4/2016 11:54:00 PM
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Free will?
So my philosophy class just started talking about free will. Pretty much, whether or not our actions are chosen by us or if every action has been set up by other events.
Examples(made by me, could be pretty shitty ones): you chose what clothes you're wearing, but was the decision changed by what clothes were clean/missing?
You pick up a pen at random to prove you have free will and chose to pick it up. That was decided for you by me arguing with you over free will and whoever left that pen right there.
I'm curious about what the flood thinks about free will.
I've always thought people had free will. However with actually thinking about it, I'm not sure. I'll develop a better opinion as I think about it more.
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1 ReplyThe way you're explaining it makes me assume humans do not have free will. Asking me I would say we do
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[quote]That was decided for you by me arguing with you over free will and whoever left that pen right there.[/quote] I still decided to do it. Just because of the cause-effect relationship between the argument and the action doesn't mean that you somehow metaphysically forced me to pick it up. I could jam the pen into my eye socket for no reason. There's no apparent cause, and I wasn't somehow forced to do it.
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6 RepliesThere is no true free will, only the ability to react to what we are confronted with.
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2 RepliesYes it makes us do stupid things
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3 RepliesYes indeed humans have free will. I subscribe deeply to the concept of freedom as posed by existentialist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre in his magnum opus Being and Nothingness. He says, "man is condemned to be free." At first glance, one may recognize that this is paradoxical, nevertheless all Sartre is saying is, that we are so radically free, being able to choose to act in any situation, hence we experience anguish due to being forced to make life changing choices, but the only thing we are not free to do is not be free. I am glad to see philosophical discussion on the forums!
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5 RepliesWe are all biological robots, going about our day while making our pre-determined decisions
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Nope, maybe for the first few years of life but past that your choices are pretty much made
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2 RepliesEdited by Autolycus: 4/5/2016 12:53:21 AMSort of. An intelligent agent within a closed system will never be able to determine all information within that closed system because of recursive frustrators. Think a long the lines of "this sentence is a lie". It's knowledge influences what is true, so it can never perfectly predict itself. A non interfering observer outside the system would have no problem determining all information within, given the adequate facilities to do so. I suppose there's also fuzzy logic and quantum variation to consider, but I'm no expert in quantum mechanics, so I won't speak to that.
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Free will to make a 50/50 poll
