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Edited by Reaga: 4/3/2016 1:22:01 AM
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My face when someone says sniping takes skill

All year one people bitched and whined about shotguns and how they took "No skill", but now that snipers are ruling Crucible no one wants Bungie to take that crutch away? How -blam!-ing hypocritical do you have to be, honestly, to think on weapon type requires more skill than another? "B-but anyone can use a shotgun all you have to do is point and shoot" Oh you mean that I don't have to get in close and stand at near the damn edge of the map and get kills with shotgun. Holy -blam!-ing shit I must have been using them wrong. Oh as for the logic of anyone can use them, why the -blam!- can everyone use a sniper? Why does everyone act like it's so -blam!-ing hard to use these things? "W-well obviously people were complaining about things like found verdict, Felwinter's lie, and Matador" Oh you mean like everyone is and has been complaining 1000-yard stare? Defiance of Yasmine? Just gonna ignore that are we? Because those are the snipers everyone is using right now and have had the most complaints. "B-but shotgun were obviously broken messes, they needed to be reworked" And sniping doesn't? When the reticle doesn't work like the rest of the -blam!-ing weapons and allows you to get a head shot? Seriously, go use any other weapon in the game and let me know which one still hit where the reticle was pointing instead of its current position. They may not be OP but they sure as hell need a looking at. "But it must take skill because you don't see people going unbroken/getting really high kill streaks that often with snipers" You didn't see many -blam!-ing people that went unbroken with a -blam!-ing shot gun or fusion rifle either. Most of the times when they did they used their primaries and other abilities to help them reach those milestones. Same goes for snipers. "You're just bad and you need to adapt to the Meta" Oh you mean like how everyone didn't adapt to shotgun/fusion rifles or any other meta? This is what I -blam!-ing hate about the community, you people are so goddamn scared of losing the weapons that you rely to heavily on to think -blam!-ing clearly and act like giant -blam!-ing hypocrites when anyone encroaches on your weapon's territory. You all don't want balance in this game, you want your weapons to be the best and everyone else's weapons to be a big old steaming pile. You hoot and hollar about adapting, and certain weapon being unskilled, but yet half of you couldn't use a shotgun or fusion rifle to save your life and you never even tried to get better with them. Oh well, have fun "Adapting" to the new sniper changes coming on the 12th, I will enjoy watching you baddies struggle to get kills. Edit: To all the people pointing out my stats, good job, you found out at least enough to know that I haven't played [b]ON PLAYSTATION CONSOLES[/b] in a long time. To the people that are thinking that I am salty about getting killed with sniper rounds. Nah, that isn't what pisses me off. What pisses me off is you kids want shit on other weapons, but when someone starts dumping on snipers it "OH NO DON'T NERF MY SNIPERS, THEY ARE THE PERFECTS AND MOST BALANCE RIGHT NOW". Complain all for the first year about fusion rifles and shotguns ,that people legitimately loved using, some not even because they were the meta weapons, but when someone does the same to snipers suddenly they are noobs that can't "adapt?". Yet your unskilled asses couldn't quit bitching and adapt to those weapons? What pisses me off is you are being -blam!-ing hypocrites about the weapons. What's hilarious is the people in the comments proving my point about this as well, just look at how many people didn't read and just went for the insults. All they saw was someone saying something about snipers and went ape shit over it. Edit 2: Maybe I should start a fund for the illiterate and those that are failing with reading comprehension because either people can't read or choose to ignore the point. The point I was trying to make was that people using snipers say it takes skill to use, but yet every match people are using them often and well enough to dictate that the skill bar for these weapons is set quite low. To be great with them, yes it does take skill, but so does using a shotgun or a fusion rifle, but yet for all of year one and parts of year 2 people still continued to whine about them without thinking "hmm why are these weapons considered OP?". Look at most the maps on this -blam!-ing game, they are built for short to mid encounters. Couple that with the fact that Bungie thinks [b]SPECIAL[/b] ammo needs to be given out like candy and of course these weapons are going to be overused, they were the best for those situations. As for the children saying "Oh he's a shotgunner" "Lol he mad that he can't use a sniper and get killed with them", congrats you are the people I keep referring to, that constantly defend a broken system and again demonstrate my point that when it comes to your weapons they are fine and balanced, but everything is broken, cheap mess that needs to be nerfed. For those that think I can't use a sniper, congrats on being judgemental morons. Been using the TAO HUA YUAN (with ambush scope I might add) and Omolon Uzume quite easily and they have much lower AA than 1000-yard and Defiance.

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  • You know who won't admit that Snipers are the problem? You know who keeps seeding these ideas of nerfing everything but Snipers? Streamers and YouTubers. Not all of them, just those "pros" who can't have a load out that doesn't include a long range weapon. No Land Beyond is the only sniper in the game that takes skill to use. It is very different. I recently started using it and am loving my time with it. It's teaching me to snipe better and smarter. Then there is 1KYS 0r 1000-Aim Assist- Stare. That thing is such bull. Take away Aim Assist on all snipers or just lower it. Sniping will take a hell of a lot more skill then.

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    • Year one sniping took skill, because you had to move constently to avoid being shotgunned. Now people just camp and no skill is needed.

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      • take away the aim assist... its not the sniper rifles that are the crutch... its the aim assist... its basicly like bungie is holding the sniper's hands instead of letting them learn how to ride that bike without training wheels on their own... the training wheels are gone but our old man wont let go of the seat

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        • If it's easy to snipe then how come I almost always out snipe people who camp their spawn? Been shot gunning recently and I can tell you that it feels easier for me. Maybe because I've been shot gunning as a nightstalker and as a sunsinger but shotgunning feels easy

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          • I have to agree with you. Tho I'm a sniper (I do sweaties with a shotgun) I can't handle all those hate messages when I use shotty. If shotguns and fusions needed nerf then snipers need too

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          • Sit scoped on corridors with no sway or breath system for whole trials games... So fun right?! Then teabag like your the shit when all you've learned to do is memorize head positions and wait The learning curve necessary for destiny sniping is bullshit. This is an easy-mode game for snipers.

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            • Edited by cuzzybubba1: 4/3/2016 11:26:54 PM
              I just started sniping and man the real issue is the body shot damage.. Why aim for the head when you can drop health by 2/3 and then one shot from primary. This is the biggest issue imo, there is no downside to not landing the headshot. I have a feeling this will be changed and also special ammo is going to be nerfd again to promote primary usage which I will love.

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              • Sniping skill>shotgun skill

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                • Your mom took no skill to use either but you don't see me complaining.

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                • Fusions are OP? Nerf them Shotguns are OP? Nerf them Snipers are OP? Reduce ammo for all special weapons lol

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                  • I hate that there are no gunfights in Trials. It's literally just team snipers/nades. Sniper Rifles need a major change.

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                    • I have to admit that some of the stuff i do with shotties makes my friends wonder wtf just happened! But I feel the same way about snipers for them. Iunno, i hate snipers mainly cuz it was never a big problem in early Vanilla and now it is. I have NO IDEA why its worse now but i know it is. Maybe thats why its such an issue, nobody knows how to fix it. Perhaps its just the community that got better overall at sniping and it was there all along?

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                      • Tl;dr. You suck ass, quit crying.

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                      • Lol... They are bringing back the most popular snipers of year 1. You guys are complaining now? Just wait two weeks and see how much you are complaining then. Idc who you are sniping take skill in every game.

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                        • Out of curiosity, what does skill mean to all of you? And no I'm not asking you to pull out a dictionary. Is it a measurement? A level of a player's performance? Or is it something else entirely?

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                        • Aim Assist doesn't almost do anything. It is high and sometimes it can grant you kills, but even with a 1kys you need to be precise as snipers are supposed to be

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                        • Guys I noticed something weird. I was playing Iron Banner, and I accidentally pressed Y and some weird rifle looking thing appeared in my hands. I quickly pressed Y again to bring my secondary weapon out. Don't know what that was all about.

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                          • Simple answer for all your pvp problems. Quit acting like babies about everything. Learn how to counter any sick weapon. And play the ducking game, so you guys can quit ruining pve.

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                          • Hard scoping is very easy quick scoping, blink sniping shade sniping even no scoping does require skill and practise

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                            • I think that the reason that snipers are so OP now is because Y2 snipers have very high aim-assist. In Y1, not very many had such high aim-assist. Like, my LDR has very low aim-assist, and when it does kick in, it usually is not helping me in any way at all.

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                            • You need to stop taking the game so serious, m8. Have you forgotten that video games were created for entertainment and joy. If I want to snipe because I find it fun, I don't want to be limited to not having special ammo. I've been using fusions a lot lately and they are really fun to use, they may not be the best, but they are still fun. Stop being so serious, yes the overwhelming amount of snipers in crucible can get annoying, but little do I run into a team that just sits back and snipes. Just have fun, it's just a game, and it won't be competitive for a long long time.

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                            • Complains about stuff like this while the companion app is saying he's not even level 40 yet

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                            • What cartoon is that from?

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                              • Edited by AMC_07: 4/3/2016 5:32:03 PM
                                I'll say that it honestly depends on the shot. There are some shots people make that you have to admit are impressive. Hard scoping is not one of them. Recognizing an enemy in the distance and quickly hitting them is. And as you have pointed out, the sniper used also effects the value of the shot as well due to AA. Also I agree with the whole wanting your weapons to do best thing you pointed out, but I think we could honestly restore shotguns a bit (not too much) and buff fusion rifles (I said it, come at me) too.

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                              • You should probably go outside.

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                                • Post to long... Some players can snipe and some cannot or are not good at it at all... Sniping does take skill I guess, if it didn't everyone would be great at it

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