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3/21/2016 12:17:55 PM
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Well it won't be taken guardians were fighting. Only living beings can be taken, and guardians are all dead.
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Not Kabr, Not Osiris, Not Toland, Not Shin Malphur, not Preadyth in certain timelines, etc.
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Guardians are all dead. I mean all of them. Active ones are not actually alive. Zavala, Cayde-6, Ikora, Shaxx, Hideo. None of them are actually alive.
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You haven't followed along. He means to even BECOME a guardian, you have to be resurrected by a ghost. Meaning ALL GUARDIANS are technically undead in the first place.
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Shin Malphur was alive when chosen by his ghost, possibly toland as well. You don't
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Edited by NobodyJustBrad: 3/21/2016 1:03:18 PMUm, the only thing we were told about Shin and any sort of Ghost was that Jaren's spoke to him. We don't hear anything about Shin being a guardian at all. Or that he had a Ghost of his own. Just the fact that they call him a Hunter on the Last Word card? There's a whole other meaning to that word than the one in the Destiny subclass system.
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There is another meaning to hunter, but that is the first time in destiny lore it was used to section off a way to usr light.
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We know he was the first gunslinger, first person to use the light in a repeatable and teachable fashion. We know he was chosen to be a guardian after Jaren died.
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Edited by Inkvisitorn: 3/21/2016 3:58:08 PM*Ahem* Shin summoned a Golden Gun when facing Dredgen Yor at Dwindler's Ridge. Read the last TLW Grimoire Card. Other than that, I'd also like to mention that on the Heroic version of The Coming War, at the end when you're running to your ship, there's a timer. When that timer runs out, the tendrils on the screen that usually shows up when entering a Darkness Zone appears and you die from a debuff called "Taken Over", or something similar to that. Just something to think about.
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Maybe you should read it. It says exactly nothing about summoning a golden gun. And if you read the last Ghost fragment for the last word, you'll see that after he shot dredgen, he went up to dredgen's body and shot him a second time. Golden gun vaporizes enemies. There could be no second shot.
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"In step with my motion, the fire within burst into focus – through my shoulder, down my arm – as my finger closed on the trigger of my third father’s cannon. " "My shooter still embraced by the dancing flames of my Light" Do explain how this does not describe a Golden Gun.
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The quick twitch of a gunslinger's gun arm could easily be described as a burst of energy. Again, he was still able to walk over and shoot him again. THAT describes exactly NOT a Golden Gun.
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"Two shots. Two bullets engulfed in an angry glow." Shin fired two shots at Yor before walking over to him. A Golden Gun has three shots.
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And since when does it take 3 shots to kill a guardian?
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You're forgetting that Dredgen Yor wasn't a Guardian anymore. He was wielding the power of the Darkness. That could have made him withstand the first shot. Also, how do we know he didn't die from the first shot? It seems like Yor was manipulating Shin, in a "join the Dark side" kind of move. Shin was perhaps provoked to fire out of rage and then most likely shot Yor more times than necessary.
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Again, enemies are vaporized by gg. That's how we know.
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Like I said, Yor was not an ordinary Guardian. Actually, he wasn't a Guardian at all, he was powered by the Darkness. With those powers, he would have easily survived the first two shots. But you're forgetting something. Since when did gameplay affect the Grimoire? You're basing everything you say on the idea that gameplay mechanics would affect the lore. Lore can affect gameplay, not the other way around.
