The last part was, but we all just got tired of destiny. I honestly did after dark below, but kept going to play with friends. It's just repetitive and slow with no real goal to work for or reward to seek out or earn. Just grinding for the chance at an item that more than likely isn't even a high enough level to use. I don't mind repetition or grinding, I even still play defiance, but there's no progression of rewards or even weapons that are all that unique. It's just not worth it when I can play other games that offer more fun things to do or more worthwhile things to earn or goals and challenges to work at for less money.