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originally posted in: Riddle me this Bungie
2/27/2016 7:30:01 PM
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A lot of people complain about Bungie not listening. Because they don't get enough out of them as they would want. This is called impatience. And it is also known as being spoiled. Other games may have the ability to provide these larger patches you speak of in less time. The thing is though, they are not working on destiny. Destiny is a big game, and it's relatively new in its entirety. On top of that, coding isn't as easy as ctrl+F and finding what you need to fix. All fixes to any coding for any game ever created requires a repetitive process of edit code, start program, check for success, kill program, edit code, repeat. There's game you mentioned, Diablo 3, is like looking at 1+1=2, whereas destiny is like (3x4+2)r36=w. Don't compare these games again. They aren't even in the same genre. And saying that they saved Diablo 3 by firing their lead designer (or whatever he was) is called pure ignorance. Diablo 3 is trash compared to destiny. In both how it's made and how it's coded. What you people don't understand is that no matter how much you bitch and moan, it doesn't make the company of Bungie, which you've turned into a robot slave to fix their own game for your enjoyment, move any faster than they can. Not every company has 500 people coding a game at once. Even then, if Bungie decided to add more coders, they'd first have to learn the code that Bungie made for the game, get used to it, and only then can they successfully code the game without breaking it. TLDR: all of you people are stupid, inconsiderate, spoiled, and know nothing of how the process of changing anything in this game takes place. It's infuriating that you people continue to talk shit to Bungie instead of actually realizing that these problems are not as big as you make them out to be. Even then, when they do fix something, you don't even have the god damned courtesy to THANK them. Stop dwelling on the games flaws like high horse. This game is one of the most advanced in this age, why can't you just be thankful that it simply [i]Exists?[/i]
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  • You focused almost entirely on the technical aspect / complexity of the game code, when the real issues stem from design decisions that aren't technical in nature. For example: - The decision to leave all Y1 gear behind with no infusion or ascension path. - The decision to lower the amount of XP gained from each bounty. - The decision to make the light process based on RNG for loot + RNG for light level The list goes on. Their design direction is at fault for mishandling the game almost in its entirety. How difficult it is to work with the code or how many people they have working on it at once is completely irrelevant.

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  • And yet you're not an optimizer like I am. See this loot RNG system? I don't mind it. I'm a year 1 veteran, dog. Ever heard one of us say that? Like I had said, every problem you guys have with this game are smaller than you make it out to be. They've provided us with event chances to get 320 gear, and the long ass grinding from doing the raid so many times keeps us playing for a long time. I have trials gear. Not only does nothing from trials, except for exotics, drop above 310, but also, I have to work twice as hard to get myself to 320. Even then, I ain't frettin'. Only thing I want is the trials ship. I'm 319 in a raid, I don't need that last level, and I barely even raid anymore. I enjoy destiny for the grind, these players, and the glory of feeling like a badass in crucible. Fight me, yo. I'm one of Bungie's greatest players because of that.

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  • Well I've been here straight through since beta, "dog" and I think you're delusional, yo.

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  • Nah. I'm just enjoying this game for what it is, not complaining, and actually being satisfied with what I'm getting instead of bitching about it. Crucible is fair now. There is just that 1 split second of lag we can't fix, and lag switchers stick out like dogs balls. And I've also never experienced teleporting ogres BTW. I don't see any problems but a grind with grinding. I get to kill thousands of aliens. I do that every day. And I get to do it while being a badass decked out in gold. I'm pretty sure that's what most gods are depicted as. All powerful and heavily decorated. I enjoy this game, why can't you?

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  • I didn't say I don't enjoy it. I'm at 320/319/319, missing just 2 class items, 1 ghost, and 1 primary from 3x 320 characters. I play a LOT. That doesn't mean I'm blind to some of the downright stupid decisions Bungie's leads have made along the way. They've wasted easy opportunities at engagement, seemingly more interested in monetization.

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  • Edited by Blacksmith Samurai: 2/28/2016 3:00:20 AM
    This is also the first destiny game platform attempt. Making later versions produces better product. This isn't opinion or prediction, it's fact. I call it the trial and error principle. Like with my writing. I've written well over 1500 separate stories in RFD past 7 years. Each better than the last. Because I learn why the last one never finished, or people give their input. No artist can get better without input. It's what builds the artist. I don't expect them to be the same. It's an example. Also, doesn't complaining mean you don't like the game?

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  • These aren't platform issues or even technical ones. As I said - stupid decisions by the design leads led to numerous missed opportunities. Trial and Error only works if you learn from your errors. Bungie doesn't even do that. There's no need to differentiate between a complaint and input. Complaints [u]are[/u] input. So no, it doesn't mean I don't like the game - in fact the problem is that I do like it and that makes it so much more annoying when Bungie bungles it.

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  • Right over your head bro. I literally can't do anything if it does, because I don't know how. If'n ya still don't understand, you didn't understand what I said and I don't know how to explain it to help you understand.

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  • Nice try. Is that the best you could do? The old "Over your head"? Pfft. I'll chalk this one up in the "You brought a spoon to a gunfight" category. Later.

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  • No, I'm being dead serious. I actively have a problem with this quite a bit. It's not cool to just shift this side like an "I win the argument statement"

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  • At least you get it lol

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