I've always been disappointed when they get community members (YouTubers) to talk to bungie and and ask questions. It's 100% scripted, and they don't ask real -blam!-ing questions.
"Why does any other gaming company release patches and updates in a fifth of the time it takes you guys, and there's more in a single patch than you guys do in a year?"
"Why no looking for group system in the actual game? You always talk about how this game is to be played with others, yet provided 0 eats for them to find each other. "Put down controller, open laptop and scour the Internet for people to play with" didn't sound dumb and lazy to you?"
"Why have you made endgame stuff useless and irrelevant?"
"Ever heard of Blizzard? They fixed Diablo 3 when it failed hard and disappointed the fans. They fired the creative lead guy in charge. Do you know how they fixed it? By listening to the fans, and doing what they wanted. In fact, I'm fairly certain they came to talk to you after vanilla was disappointing and told you 'you make a game for the people, for the player base, not for yourself.' And yet!"
"Based on the above question, why does Luke Smith ignore their advice and constantly tell player how they should play the game, and that's not how he intended them to play, so it's being removed or nerfed ect."
[b]addition[/b] "Luke smith also said he chose to not carry forward and y1 content, because he didn't want players to have to do. They were moving away from the grind, and bringing it forward would be too much for players. And yet TTK is more grind then y1 ever was. Classy Luke Smith."
"Why is it so hard for you guys to understand there's a difference between PVP and PVE, and that you should nerf, buff and balancing each one separately (as in, don't nerf to the ground the best reward from the raid (mythoclast) because it wrecks in PVP. it should be powerful in PVE, but you killed it because it was strong in PVP)"
"What's wrong with the crucible right now? Now I don't play it, but have seen many forum posts about it. Painting red bars green, super lag, being killed by invisible players, awful hit detection for melee (and everything else), lag lag lag."
"What is wrong with your servers? Any other game that features multiplayer has smart match making (don't match teams against solo players), and skill based match making isn't a bad idea in theory, it's just poorly executed."
"Let's talk smart loot table. This was a lie. Complete and utter lie. Just admit you 'forgot' to do it and implement it. If it is actually in the game, it's horrible, and needs to be reworked."
"No one. [b]NO ONE[/b] said 'hey, I have too many weapon parts, wish we could get less.' Stop forcing players to grind more so they don't realize your game is empty. If you actually provided meaningful content it wouldn't be an issue."
"I'm going to quote deej, not the exact word for word, but close: 'we never want to leave our players behind. When a new DLC comes out, we don't want our players to feel forced to buy it. They will always be able to carry forward. The last thing we want to do is leave our players behind.' Do you remember that deej? I sure do. So when TTK came out, did you decide to just screw over all those people that bought the game already but didn't want this new DLC? Did you feel it was right, it was justified to lock then out of content [i]they already paid for?[/i] Content such as the vendors, the nightfall, the weekly, trials of Osiris. All of which they paid for when buying destiny (HOW for trials). But you left them all behind. Exactly like you said you wouldn't. But hey, they didn't rebuy the entire game and every DLC along with the TTK, screw them! Right?"
[b]Addition[/b] "Another thing deej has said over the course of destiny: light level and gear. When DB released they made everyone's hard work pointless. All gear was left behind. Then they said oops, the last thing we wanted to do was make all your gear and hardwork meaningless. So HOW was released and they allowed everything to be carried forward with a special item. Awesome. They stuck to their word. And then the TTK was released and they went back on their word. Again. Just like for many other issues. Have some consistency guys."
"Is it so hard to admit mistakes? People make them. Companies make them. Revert your nightfall and weekly back to how it was Y1. Everyone liked if better. No one likes Y2."
There's so many more. Please Feel free to add.
TL/DR
[spoiler]WHY BUNGIE LIE TO US AND NOT ACTUALLY LISTEN? HERE ARE QUESTIONS[/spoiler]
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How dare you construct a post containing well thought out and expressed valid points on the Destiny forum! If all you're going to do is make complete sense, I demand that you leave now. What have I told you about bringing a rationale mentality in here?! Bungie - please nerf Fusion Rifles. [spoiler]Awesome post OP[/spoiler]
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Not wanting to sound like a desticle or something, while i agree that their communication with the community has been very poor and many times vague. It was states that destiny's engine is an monstrocity on its own, it would took them a day to make minor changes like moving a weapon crates or something as simple as that, and as for content, its up to the live team to keep it fresh, so while the team is working on destiny 2 an small team is struggling with destiny right now. I cant really link it right now, but if i am not wongr it was in a kotaku article.
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Aaaaaand the sheeple have moved on
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Damn good post, i agree even more with the part about separating PvE and PvP. How hard is it to make a gun operate differently in PvP from how it does in PvE?
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Damn you over here typing books on the forum's.
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Bump, totally agree. But hey, Bungie knows best apparently so let's just dickride them to hell
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Well said. However You should learn how to use quotes.
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I think everyone and their mom would be on top of the world if they brought Fatebringer back.
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I remember back in the HoW stream (showing around the reef before the game was out), Gothalion kept cracking jokes towards Bungie's mistakes. He got so much shit for that but even though I hate him... he told it like it is. Now everything is like OP said, staged.
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Edited by DH240: 2/29/2016 3:52:47 PMOh shit that's a long ass riddle
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Bumpity Bump!
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Top Post kept it 100 listen Bungie
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I came here for a riddle and got no such intellectual challenge. Hell you didn't even include a picture of the riddler
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If you're quoting someone and it's not word for word, it's called paraphrasing. Other than that I agree with this post. Which is exactly why I haven't played in months. It's almost sickening to watch videos on how this game was originally intended, only to realize it's a stinking pile of shit. I still had lots of fun playing though before TTK. I never could get used to all of the new changes though. In fact, I hate all of the new changes.
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My biggest question is why are the raid weapons garbage? The reload times should be doubled on all of them at least so that they are able to be used well in PvE
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Edited by Demon2706: 2/29/2016 2:11:19 AMBungle are more than likely thinking of removing this post.......simply because they are the kids that take the ball home in a sulk! Here's a valid question...........why dream up an amazing game, create a fabulous buzz for what could be....then go and feck it all up by carving it apart and changing it fundementaly, one for the money, &two, for the worse!
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I've got a question for bungie too: Are enough people using pulse rifles yet?
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Kind of hard for them to listen when they have their heads firmly up their own asses.
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Too damn true The reason I left was because the gear was ditched. My work I did back in VoG now resorts to a half-assed raid that became simple the second we learned 1/16th of it. VoG took at least 4 times longer to learn, and was fun as hell, then Bungie says, "Fun? Not here!" Someone remind me what happened to Bungie from Halo Reach?
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Completely agree. If they're "listening" like they always say they are then they would bring nightfalls back to Y1 and makes them much harder and drop rewards no less that 5(or so) light below your current light level. They would also bring ALL strikes back into the playlist. If I have to do bond brothers or alak-hul one more time for the nightfall I'm gonna lose it. They would also make all the raids useful again. Idk about dropping loot as high as kings fall but maybe have them drop infusable geat or something. So many other things. But hey....bungie will never recognize this. They will just keep posting weekly updates saying an update will come in the near future don't worry guys. Really all I want is for them to be straight forward with us and say exactly what is in our future and what will never come and for what reasons.
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Bump 😠
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holy shit, I've always thought this but I've never said/typed it before. way to go I 100% agree with everything up there.
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Edited by sargetc: 2/29/2016 3:41:34 AMI listen to all the Destiny related podcasts. I love them, follow them on twitter, really appreciate the content.. but when it comes to being able to ask the tough questions, they are always afraid. An example of a tough question that they are afraid to ask might include: "Fans overwhelmingly have stated that they want dedicated servers and custom games. Destiny has been out since 2014.. please tell the fans EXACTLY WHY you haven't done this yet?" No need to be afraid to ask it.. it is a fair and legit question... maybe Bungie has a good reason (maybe last gen can't support it.. maybe it is in development for Destiny 2.. ) I love the podcasters and streamers, I really do.. but they seem like they are afraid to lose "best buddy" status when it comes to interviewing Bungie. You can ask those tough questions in respectful ways...seriously gang.. don't be scared.
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Preach on brother! Seriously doubt Bungie will listen though, but a man can dream
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