hello, I make two assumptions: 1- play Destiny from the first year, first on Xbox 360 and then by ps4, so I played with a number of different player most Italians, but also foreigners in pvp. 2- I play Italy who already does not shine for the goodness of its ADSL lines and the fiber arrives barely in big cities, so my adsl line is a 7Mega which translated means (3 or 4 Mbps in download and 200 / 300 Kbps upload) for destiny is almost always mediocre (yellow) someone might blame to my adsl line, however, if other equally demanding game titles like pvP and pvE (Black ops, Halo ect ect) I did not disconnect problems while if i play in Destiny also my friends who have the fiber suffer from the problem! Let's talk about Lag, if you play in some particular times, I work, but I happened to connect during the early morning as the Saturday or Sunday, and the problem is null and even when I happen to have poor line (red) does not resent the lag and playmates not lamentanto no lag or disconnection problem and do not see me Lagging so the game runs smooth for everyone, instead of at any other time, despite often controls the quality of the line, it becomes a delirium (eg 21.00 after dinner) especially in PVP and we happen to Oryx raid in difficult mode, people who use the fiber that are thrown from the game were infected, but not by the party into speech made on ps4, monsters that disappear and reappear somewhere else, that does not suffer damage ect ect In conclusion: The main problem is of Bungie, useless and perhaps ridiculous to deny it, no lines of the users did not say except that we all lines ADSL / fiber so bad that they can not play online, definitely have connections and under sized server capacity compared to the number of users connects! Let's say if the player holding the host of the game is with good connection, four other players with good / mediocre line and a user with poor line, if it was a problem of the local loop: the game seems to flow for five with good line, the activated elements turn on right away, while we would see the player with bad line jerky and elements activated by him do not always would activate when desired, however the quality of the line changes often green to red like a traffic light, whether you have or whether you are using fiber broadband. if supervised activities you're doing at that time, have you ever noticed in the tower if there are red lines? or in your party when you are in orbit? Instead when you start an activity, type the raid, everything changes and even if you have a fiber line have monsters that go in spurts, plates that are activated after several seconds ect ect and this happens both to you and maybe you know you have a normal ADSL like mine and those who uses a fiber connection !!!