Don't push it. I didn't think they could win just that it would be a stalemate, and it will.

Both have reality warping, it's impossible for us to say which form of it is better as it is beyond our comprehension.

[quote][quote]Time travel is only usable in thr vault of glass. The Cabal are weak compared even to the covenant. The ghost said the cabal blow up moons for getting in the way but the forerunners do the same thing to solar systems. The flood are way above the hives worms. They can easily destroy the dreadnaught in one go with a star road. The Vex can also get logic plauged by the flood one void walker is nothing compared to a city busting war sphinx[/quote] 1. Time travel is clearly available outside of the vault. Skolas, vex themselves, and the stranger. ----------- The Precursors/Keyminds are reality warpers, so time travel is not a big advantage. Not to mention the Forerunners have demonstrated time travel during Halo First Strike. ----------- 2. That's subjective as in the grimoire they're amazingly powerful. ----------- But we don't know how powerful in comparison to the Covenant ----------- 3. Yes the forerunners are strong I know this, they also got defeated by the flood/MC easily. ----------- What are you talking about? Master chief never faced the forerunners, The Promethean's are the work of a madman who was mentally tortured by the gravemind and lost his wife to a clone of himself. The flood/forerunners are far more powerful than you think, to discuss the flood, what we see in the games is just the earliest and weakest stage, and even then during the first halo they had taken control of the entire ring. During halo 2 they once again take control of the ring and then high charity. Then in halo 3 after mere minutes of landing on earth the elites are forced to glass the entire region to cleanse them. But when they have achieved their full power, they are capable of subverting technology simply by being near it, can infect reality and warp the laws of physics to suit their needs with Keyminds, and construct then control star rods, which can be several Au/light years long, and turn planets to dust, or crush them into black holes. ----------- 4. The flood are not above the hive's worms. Akka is far above a grave mind, grave minds cannot live forever. They cannot destroy the dreadnaught easily at all. Oryx's throne world plus oversoul would eradicate them. ----------- You should do research before you make such claims, the Gravemind consciousness is that of the Primordial the thousand Precursors, and all thoughts who were consumed, the Gravemind is beyond time and physical reality. I've already addressed the power of the flood so I won't address your other points. ----------- 5. The vex would not get logic plagued like Mendicant, as shown in game they simply shut down if proven false. Atheon, black garden, and many other things shows that the vex are as close to omniscient as possible.[/quote] ----------- I need proof, The logic plague works by force feeding the AI information until they go insane, how are the Vex immune to this? -----------

1. The forerunners were defeated by the flood because all their technology was being logic plauged. The flood were infecting reality which messed up forerunner slipspace. And MC only defeated prometheans. He didn't even kill the didact in halo 4 because he comes back in the comics. A single forerunner war sphinx has the power to take out cities. 2. The flood gravemind can live until there is no more biomass to consume. They can use Star roads which would be indestructible considering the destiny universe has no neural weapons such as the halo rings. The guardians considered the dreadnaughts main weapon to be threat but the flood can just use a star road from across the galaxy to destroy any planet they want withen minutes. 3. Granted I will say that the halo universe cannot kill oryx or any other hive gods but the forerunners or flood can possibly contain them.

It was established that the forerunners were simply the superior force, the human forces never got within 15,000 ly of the Forerunner capital. They only did as well as they did because they had prepared by studying Forerunner technology as well as aligning themselves with the San Shyume. But that merely slowed their defeat.

Each faction in destiny can do the same. I won't go point by point but Oryx can take any sentient being, Oryx can destroy anything with his oversoul, and oryx/the vex can travel between rips of time. There's theories that oryx destroyed the forerunners (I don't buy it) but he did in fact destroy civilizations as big as the forerunners.

[quote]I'm sorry. The forerunners can make the sun go super nova while in slipspace...the forerunners can activate the halo rings from out of the milkyway galaxy....the flood can use the logic plauge to take over rasputin which the guardians fear....the flood can smash earth, the dreadnaught, venus, the moon, and mars in minutes with star roads....the Vex can only alter time in the vault of glass. Robots cannot be taken as we seen no taken servitors or shanks so the forerunners can use onyx sentinels to wipe the floor with them....Destiny universe stands no chance against halo universe[/quote] Fixed it for ya.

None of them are beyond time and space though, the precursors are older than the stars/universe itself.