The precursors wipe everything from existence as they are immune to reality warping themselves. Also The halo rings wipes out the concept of neurologically complex existence, everything from trees that communicated through insects to realities consciousness itself gets wiped within the blast radius. I need proof that the Vex and Hive can't die seeing as they die a lot. Also the forerunners can cause the sun to go supernova and wipeout everything.

I don't know what you're talking about in regards to Precursors being immune to reality warping as that was never stated anywhere in Halo's lore. Constant and powerful gravity was enough to shatter Star Roads that we could guess were around a sun for ~10,000,000 years. If ridiculously intense gravity combined with complex orbits can shatter star roads, then I don't really see how they'd be immune to reality warping completely. You're also over-exaggerating the effects of Halo's pulse. A somewhat ambiguously canon factoid regarding Halo given to us by Greg Bear is that Halo's pulse can only kill life with the neural complexity of a squirrel or greater. All life below that is killed off by subsequent ecological collapse due to the massive extinction event and change in the food chain. By that point, the only life left would have the complexity comparable to lichens and moss.

Actually anything above 1 millimeter in scale was killed. Halo Cryptum; ch. 12. The Didact requested scans of the planet’s present biota along with lists of the flora and fauna that had survived the battles nine thousand years before. In the records of the survey conducted by the Lifeworkers, likely after the end of hostilities, I saw hundreds of species of larger animals ranging in size from a meter to a hundred meters—some clearly aquatic, others huge land carnivores or sedate prairie-grazers. This list was compared with what the sensors could now locate. One by one, the larger species dropped out. “No animals larger than a meter,” the ship’s ancilla reported in a precise, clipped voice. Next came a range of historic species less than a meter in size—tree-hoppers, burrowers, small carnivores, seed-eaters, flying creatures, arthropods, clonal sibling societies … the Pheru. One by one, they dropped off the current list. None to be found. Next came flora, including dense arboreal forests. Many of the original trees had acquired a kind of long-term intelligence, communicating with each other over centuries using insects, viruses, bacteria, and fungi as carriers of genetic and hormonal signals, analogous to neurons.… That list also quickly emptied. There were remnants—dead forests and jungles covered with a false green carpet of primitive plants and symbiotic species. All that remained, apparently, were mosses, fungi, algae, and their combined forms. “Nothing with a central nervous system or even a notochord,” the ship’s ancilla reported. “No fauna above a millimeter in scale.” As for why I said it kills of the concept of life. Halo test: the disintegration of all Precursor structures, including the star roads. Halo radiation disrupts neural physics, and the theoretically analogous process of neural physics is often invoked to explain Precursor technology.… Space-time as a kind of organism within itself, apparently subject to the destructive radiation of the Halo. Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 102). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. It also removed the Flood infection of reality. We are in a region where the physics that used to carry Forerunners between suns no longer seems to apply. “We may have to risk a crisis jump,” the IsoDidact says . “Space-time in this region is mutating to suit Precursor transits— the Flood is headed for the Ark. Slipspace here will soon become incompatible with our drives.” “The scale !” she exclaims. “Even slipspace is corrupted. Is there not a pure thing left in the galaxy?” Her question cannot be answered. “Our chances, in either case?” Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (pp. 235-236). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition Sources https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/page-3 https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/

[quote]Actually anything above 1 millimeter in scale was killed.[/quote]I already explained my interpretation that it was showing the subsequent ecological collapse, but because the end result is the same, arguing over that is pointless at this point. I also accept that my interpretation could be wrong. [quote]As for why I said it kills of the concept of life.[/quote]You can't exactly kill a concept. Your quote for that doesn't really support that either. All it really states is that anything analogous to neural physics is subject to Halo radiation. [quote]It also removed the Flood infection of reality.[/quote]That's a bit of a stretch. The quote you provided only explained that the Flood were warping slipspace to bypass the "speed" of slipspace and the causal reconciliation debt that had built up, which would have made the Forerunner ships' unable to calculate a path through slipspace. Once the Flood stopped using it, it would have gone back to normal; regardless of Halo's pulse. In fact, the Gravemind did the same trick to get High Charity to the Ark. [quote]Sources [url=https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/page-3]https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/page-3[/url] [url=https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/]https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/[/url][/quote]You already provided sources. Don't know why you think forum posts are more credible than the book citations you've already given me. =P

[quote][quote]Actually anything above 1 millimeter in scale was killed.[/quote]I already explained my interpretation that it was showing the subsequent ecological collapse, but because the end result is the same, arguing over that is pointless at this point. I also accept that my interpretation could be wrong. The quote I provided clearly shows that even plants and fauna were affected by the halo affect. [quote]As for why I said it kills of the concept of life.[/quote]You can't exactly kill a concept. Your quote for that doesn't really support that either. All it really states is that anything analogous to neural physics is subject to Halo radiation. It says that reality itself can be effected by the Halo effect within the blast radius as it is a living entity in itself. (I'm assuming that in this battle both sides abilities will work normally) [quote]It also removed the Flood infection of reality.[/quote]That's a bit of a stretch. The quote you provided only explained that the Flood were warping slipspace to bypass the causal reconciliation debt that had built up, which would have made the Forerunner ships' unable to calculate a path through slipspace. Once the Flood stopped using it, it would have gone back to normal; regardless of Halo's pulse. In fact, the Gravemind did the same trick to get High Charity to the Ark. It says the flood were corrupting reality, not just warping it. [quote]Sources [url=https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/page-3]https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/page-3[/url] [url=https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/]https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/[/url][/quote]You already provided sources. Don't know why you think forum posts are more credible than the book citations you've already given me. =P[/quote] Just to give credit to those who actually got the quotes.

That's a bit excessive. Haha.

I will reply in multiple posts The Precursors are beyond time and space and the Primordial even survived the Halo foreign on him when it freed him. They have existed before the universe itself. The Gravemind tells us something impossible to understand— that most of what has been gathered comes from before there were stars. We do not believe in such a time, but the Mind insists … The life-patterns and living wisdom of a hundred billion years. Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 322). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. Source https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/precursor-flood-source-thread.264267/ So that is why I said they are immune.

[quote]The Precursors are beyond time and space and the Primordial even survived the Halo foreign on him when it freed him.[/quote]The Primordial was not "freed" by a Halo pulse. He was "freed" by being forced to endure billions of years in an instant with a Forerunner time-lock. [quote]The Gravemind tells us something impossible to understand— that most of what has been gathered comes from before there were stars. We do not believe in such a time, but the Mind insists … The life-patterns and living wisdom of a hundred billion years.[/quote]There have been many interpretations of this quote. Greg Bear even suggested that in Halo, the universe may be far older than just 14 billion years. [quote]So that is why I said they are immune.[/quote]The Precursors' ability to endure incredibly large swathes of time does not make them immune to reality warping. There isn't a correlation between those two. I don't deny reality warping would't be the end of them, but making claim like that is silly and absurd.