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Edited by Jaymz: 2/22/2016 10:20:36 AM
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Does Grimoire = Skill (95%+ of the time)?

Yes

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No

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Please explain your answer [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url] [b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760 NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b] If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill. [b] I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b] Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.- [quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote] And I posted this morning - [quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote] The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous. Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs? 54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock) 1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan) 51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter) All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either. It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet? Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost - Your grimoire score will increase if you : Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol Killed certain bosses in PvE Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner. Playing maps in Crucible for the first time. Playing events in the game, Finding ghost/frags exploring the game. All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP. Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time. [b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b] When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.

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  • Whenever I saw some unnecessary requirements for an LFG group, I try to join. Last one was 318+ light level and above. We beat the entire raid first try for everything, even Oryx. Another first-try-for-everything run was only 315+ light, but everyone that joined ended up being 319. So although high light level and grimoire doesn't mean you are a great player and low light level and grimoire doesn't mean you're a terrible player, they account for some sort of skill. Dedication to the game? If you're 319+ light, you either got REALLY lucky or you've beaten several challenges. Most of which will be the challneges, since those lucky ones are in the minority now. As for gimoire, about 1000 of that is from ghosts, but I think it does account for your dedication. If you ended up collecting those ghosts, for me at least, it says that you've outplayed so much Destiny that you had more than enough free time to do these arbitrary tasks. Those that know Destiny in year one(and some year 2 people) understand the importance of small things in raids, and they usually have higher grimoire score and higher light levels. You can get a feel for whether a team will do well if they're laid back, if they talk often and they do things that aren't needed. If they're in the center at the beginning of the raid and shoot the doors, if the warpriest left side kills the right side acolytes that aren't in view for the right side, if people use supers on adds constantly to rotate supers around the entire time, if someone is done with their "jobs" for that quick 5 seconds of downtime and opt to help kill the other side's adds and stay active, if someone helps shoots all ogres in view when they can and/or kills the fourth light eater knight when they could have easily just run to center for safety and waited. It's the small things that can help you determine if you have a good team, because those small things can add up and make the raid go much more smoothly. It's also those small things that players learn through experience. They don't just learn the basic mechanics, they learn where adds spawn and the timing for everything. Every tiny aspect of the raid unfolds with every playthrough and when all players are at this same level, the raid becomes extremely easy. There are always exceptions, but these unnecessary requirements can sometimes actually yield good results.

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