And yet your still ignorant, if you still think 90% is finding ghost and killing ogres. That's not it, a lot of it comes from activities completed and weapons used during those activities and enemies killed during. They don't want you do the same thing so that's why all weapon types give its own, all classes gives its own. Playing a crucible modes, not the same one over and over but different ones and winning at them. You're still so ignorant.

Someone who honestly takes my obvious exaggeration of 90% as serious is barely worth having a discussion with on this. But I'll give it one more shot. I'm near max grimore at 4840 235 is kills as x class in PvE or pvp - grinding 310 is X kills with X weapon - grinding 445 is 'allies' (ghosts & visiting places) -grinding 2730 is enemies (X dreg kills, fallen hunted, ghosts and fragments - grinding/exploration 340 is places - lighthouse is skill the rest is playing and ghosts - one skill the rest grinding 775 - activities. So here you have to actually complete an activity to get the grimore. So raids, pvp wins etc. This is the only place there is an arguement for any skill and even here there're public events, strikes and patrols which is all grind. So we are left with at best less than 775 of a total of 4840 that is even arguable as skill based. But even that's being very generous given that has the strikes etc mentioned above. I'd say the skill component of grimore is therefore somewhere around 10-15% maybe. There that's how you do a proper argument to set up a discussion. Not just post up a few words with no facts at all. If I sound annoyed it's because this forum in particular is full of people who just make vague assertions based on nothing but gut feel with nothing to back them up and abuse anyone who disagrees.