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Edited by Jaymz: 2/22/2016 10:20:36 AM
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Does Grimoire = Skill (95%+ of the time)?

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Please explain your answer [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/]Note : Also check out this reddit post, its another experiment done with Grimoire[/url] [b]NOTE : GHOST GIVE 760 NOTE : CALCIFIED FRAGMENTS GIVE 310[/b] If a person has more experience they tend to have more skill. [b] I am not saying all low Grimoire score players are bad, I am not saying all high Grimoire score players are good. But majority of the high Grimoire score players are good, and majority of the low Grimoire score players are not good. Think about it, there are a lot of people with low Grimoire scores, some this might be there first FPS, some might be extreme casuals, some just don't care. But people with high Grimoire score play the game a lot, they care about the game and spend a lot of time on it.[/b] Let me give you an example. I have been doing this for the past weeks and it has worked out for me. When I am looking for a raid group I would go to LFG and post something similar to this.- [quote]Need people for a fast raid run. Only requirement I have is must have a 4600+ Grimoire score[/quote] And I posted this morning - [quote]Looking for 5 players to do 2 fast runs. Only requirement is to have a 4600+ Grimoire and have enough time to run it more than once. 1 run should take 50mins.[/quote] The people who met the requirements had no problem messaging there Grimoire score, but others got so mad, they called me a "grimoire scub", "fu.cking retarded", and more stuff. Some people can't read at all and posted their light level. I didn't care about light level at all. It happened every week I've done this. It was really ridiculous. Do you want to know the time for all 3 of my runs? 54m 27s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4662858649 (Warlock) 1h 4m 53s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663058534 (Titan) 51m 39s - http://destinytracker.com/dg/4663230540 (Hunter) All of these runs went smoothly, becasue of that one requirement. If I would've had a light level requirement there is no telling what will happen, majority of the time it just goes bad. It is so easy to get carried to 315 and it is so easy just to get there without trying. Grimoire score shows more skill then a light level. So please don't message me on LFG if you don't meet my requirements and don't say "add me" if you don't meet them either. It's my fireteam, if you don't meet the requirements then you can't join so don't rage at me. Do you rage at someone asking for 315+ light level when you are 313? Do you rage at someone asking for Black Spindle, when you don't have the gun yet? Now let tell you what actually goes into a Grimoire score, and its not just dead ghost - Your grimoire score will increase if you : Get Crucible kills on Warlock, Hunter and Titan Get PvE kills on Warlock, Hunter, and Titan Played during the House of Wolfs days, when fallen attacked on patrol Killed certain bosses in PvE Killing an amount of certain enemies in PvE Get weapon kills with all types of weapons, not just a shotgun and hand cannon ;p Playing multiply PvP modes and winning at them, not just control and iron banner. Playing maps in Crucible for the first time. Playing events in the game, Finding ghost/frags exploring the game. All these will increase your Grimoire score, becasue it gives you a feel for the game, you are playing the game while doing this. Yes this might be like other FPS games but it still plays a bit different. Yes some people have an awesome FPS background and are already amazing in PvP. Someone who has been playing longer would know more. There are some prodigies in the world but not a lot, it takes time to get good. Remember in Elementary school when your teachers would always say practice makes perfect, it actually works a lot of the time but not all the time. [b]PvP Skill section of the tread -[/b] When I look for a trails group on LFG I always say have a 1.3 KD or higher because my KD is 1.3. I do not base PvP skills off grimoire, because lots of people have a FPS background and are good.

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  • Edited by Apex Morzh: 2/17/2016 4:03:30 AM
    I literally have never -blam!-ed up in raid before and my grimoire isn't that high and also with trials kd is a pointless statistic if you have a .2 kd and a 30 dtr and a 1500+ elo then I'd love to have you on my team

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  • I have a low grimoire score, especially for a year one player. I do consider myself experienced though. I'm a patient, mature adult, but my family will always come before any game. I'm smart enough to know that if people want certain requirements in order to join, and I don't meet certain requirements, I won't bother them. However, I feel that they are the ones missing out on a chill player who knows what he's doing. You may look at my stats and think, meh, but during year one I had shit Internet and didn't want anyone else to suffer due to it. I don't care if your grimoire is low, or if your inexperienced. If I'm able to help you, or you're able to help me, I think that's what this game and community should be about.

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    • My grim is lower than 4600 and my second run ever on hard with my normal team all others also under 4600 was faster than your fastest time on my xbox1, your fastest time are probably aquired after 10 runs at 2 plus hours each. He'll my first time ever in a nightfall was under an hour so why can't people with lower scores be better, fact is you just never know. Oh well

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      • Absolutely not, i have max grim and im garbage.

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      • https://reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ivw3k/does_grimoire_really_correlate_with_skill_with/

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      • grimoire shows EXPERIENCE not SKILL...ive seen people with near max grimoire who suck at PvE/PvP ...but there are people who make 2nd accounts and have low grimoire but are really skilled.. i usually judge people on grimoire based on experience only for PvE but if im doing PvP i only play with friends because 99% of the time randoms suck

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      • Grimoire = time spent hunting Ghosts, not skill.

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      • Grimiore = experience, not skill

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      • Honestly it's more of experience than skill.

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      • It means experience. That's all it means.

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      • What if you just recently switched to Xbone after being a day one player on PS3? My Grimoire might be low but I still wreck noobs in the crucible and kill Oryx on the regular

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        • Playing with the person is a better judge of skill. I used to play with this guy who is absolutely terrible at Destiny and we carried him to most of his Grimoire score.

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          • Edited by DarkestConnor: 2/17/2016 2:42:34 AM
            I respectfully disagree, but I do see where you're coming from. I recently did Kings Fall(normal) with three people who had never done it before, all below 293, and low grimoire scores. We finished with 1 wipe(someone started golgoroth when someone wasn't back yet) and did it first try on oryx. Took us about an hour including some breaks. It's all how the group works, these three guys listened to me explaining, and executed almost perfect. Edit-I myself technically have a "low" grimoire score because I didn't go around to each HOW event to get the card, I have probably about 1/2 the ghosts because I couldn't care less, and have basically all the important stuff finished anyway.

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          • If this was halo it would be like saying "I'm only going to play with those who unlocked all the terminals". Absolutely no impact on your skill.

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          • 3900 grimior. Ran the raid twice in just over an hour. Didn't play 80% of year one. Still better than most people I play with.

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          • Playing a lot and gaining a lot of grimoire doesn't necessarily mean you are good. In even the worst case scenario the player with high grimoire is at least better than when they started

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          • Grimiore = Time played

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            • Grim score = game experience = in theory should mean a better player

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              • Wow you actually care about grimoire? Hahaha it means nothing unless it's very very low.

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              • I mean I have alot of skill in PvE and I'm okay in PvP (1.0 - 1.1 kd, goes up and down) My grimore 4400 or something.

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              • Grimoire equals EXPERIENCE/Time-Invested at least. Of course, as with anything, skill usually increases with those things. Whether it be a job, dancing, gaming, etc. So when you see someone with a higher Grimoire, it's more likely their skill will/might reflect coming from time and experience. That's really what it comes down to. It doesn't mean they WILL be highly skilled, just more likely.

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                • I would personally look more at hours. Grimoire sometimes means experience since it can take awhile to get. Except if you focus mainly on grimoire and therefore, can slow down the lengthy process of acquiring mac grimoire. People will say KD matters; that shows skill. You can go play one game, do absolutely fabulous, and that's it. That's your KD. You judge skill by actual skill; in-game, in the "heat" of the moment.

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                • I equate grimoire more with time than skill...but that's just me.

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                • Grimoire score just means you went around looking for ghost out of boredom. It has absolutely nothing to do with skill

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                • Yes look army grimore and look how bad I am http://youtu.be/D7ZsoVZs5mk

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                • I'd say grimiore is just experience within the different aspects of the game overall (PvE kills, weapon gear, ghosts, etc) not skill

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