we mostly played pvp. it was fun laughing and cheers. every day ,late night gathering crucible runs. now.... not 1 play on destiny . im still here i like the mechanics of play,but mosty played because of the clan. now they are gone. playing other games. (half in division) i picked up other players but its not the same.most only want to raid. and at that its random lfg groups that cant even play it to the end.oryx is too hard for most. or not vary social people with extremely bad temperaments. tired of raiding and want to go in crucible .but everyone hates it. miss my group. bungie idk if you can bring back what was lost. you lost your fire for some.