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Edited by Albyno:
2/12/2016 10:24:01 AM
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Once again, pointing out facts is some insulting. You said Thorn wasnt OP, I than proceeded to tell you that your KD shows you lack experience when it comes to this weapon. I call you a dumbass because you are ignoring this point.
"MIDA kills in 4 headshots. Thorn in 3 bodyshots"
"Omg you are child for insulting me!" Great logic there bud. Thorn is OP. Thanks for having an opinion but it has no basis in reality. Have a great day:):)
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And by the way, being good at a video game isn't going to get you anywhere in real life. I have a family, a good job, a house, car. So yeah I don't have time to even try to be good at this game, I play it for fun, I play enough to get hit by thorn, to counter thorn and to have used it myself now and in the past when it was actually OP. So yeah my opinion is valid as its my opinion. Just because you've played more than me doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine. I disagree with you yes, but doesn't mean you can't have your own opinion, whereas I'm not allowed to have my own? Lol. My opinion, end of.
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Your real life accomplishments do not matter. This is a Destiny forum where you discuss Destiny related things. And yes, you are entitled to an opinion but when it is based off minimal experience then it becomes invalid. I can go around telling hair stylists their work sucks but i guess thats just my opinion right? I have cut my hair a few times so i must be an expert! If you are going to pipe up then i would hope you provide some level of evidence. Instead you have done nothing but use your personal experience as evidence. Personal experience does not trump fact. Thorn has one of the fastest time to kills while ignoring any need for precisiom shots. This is OP. Please provide something other then, "i have encountered a few Thorns so i know what i am talking about!". This type of logic does not refute the truth but beats around it.
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I never said I'd encountered a "few" thorns. I said I encounter thorn and can COUNTER it unlike you obviously as you're saying its op, I am not. It might be a destiny forum but I'm saying I have a great life and so can't be up to "your" gaming standards, whatever they are and I couldn't care less. I enjoy the game, have fun, have a laugh, I don't take it serious when I die, I don't cry cuz a DOT bullet kills me. If it wasn't for the try yards like yourself this game would be so much more fun.
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I said thorn wasn't OP!
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Destiny isn't a reality though sugar plum. It's a game hahahahaha. I think you may need to see some sort of Doctor.
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Thanks for your valuable input:) it is obvious by your responses that you have nothing constructive to say. Instead you spout petty nonsense and want to be taken seriously. Holy shit Destiny is a game? I had no idea! Is it really that hard to be able to think about and process two seperate thoughts at once? Or is that asking too much?
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Yes I'm saying that you're a try hard, who obviously has too much time on his hands, doesn't let others have their own opinion without insulting and needs to get a life.
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Ok honey:) this started off as a conversation abour Thorn being OP and you turned it into some weird blame game. I said you have lower stats. So by the rules of SBMM you are going to play lesser opponents. My level of skill or how often i play has no affect on this. You experience Thorn on a far fewer basis because people at your level, whether you like it or not, arent very serious. When or if you become a better player you will start to understand Thorns flaws. Until then your opinion is extremely biased and cannot be taken seriously. But cmon, once again ignore most if post and focus on how i am insulting you and blah blah blah.
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You are insulting regardless, there's no need to pick at someone because they're not as good as you. I play this game to have a laugh, maybe if I tried harder I could be better, but I'm not bothered. I play against people who use the thorn and I can counter it, thorn took a much needed nerf and it isn't OP to me now. Fair enough I may not play against the better players all the time but the skill level you're going off isn't necessarily the one destiny uses. There's a lot that goes into the match making, not just how good or bad you are overall.
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Trust me SBMM is definitely in full swing. I have countered Thorns before too. Just as i have countered Sunsingers, pre nerf and post nerf TLW and Thorn, pre nerf Sunbreakers ect. Does this mean that these things werent OP? Well obviously Bungie thought so because they nerfed them. A gun that has DoT, has primary ammo, more range than your average HC, a faster fire rate, and a decent reload is OP in damn near every sense. Why choose a legendary HC or Hawkmoon when Thorn does even more work but with less effort. Thorn is OP. It doesnt need to be nerfed into the ground but slight changes are needed. There is a reason why it has always dominated the sweaty meta.
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And if you hadn't have insulted my KD we could have had a better conversation. It's not that bad anyway considering I'm not bothered about it. I still kill as much as I die haha
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I apologize for that. I didnt intend for it to come off as douchey but i can see how you took it that way. Was just trying to show that Thorn is a problem at the higher levels of play and it will trickle into the lower levels as well. Its not fun no matter what you do playing full teams of Thorn shotgunners.
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Yeah I hate them sliding conspiracy theory ds with range finder on. Mine is crap. I generally use bad juju and sniper/fusion. I'll let you off for the insult, for a dirty casual I don't think my KD is that bad (it's better than my husbands anyway and he's classed as higher skilled than me lol :/) I understand you want balance, but I suppose It's hard, I like to play with guns I enjoy, not the ones that are part of the "meta" I sort of stick to what I love.
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I like to do the same thing. Constant TLW, Thorn and snipers or shotguns is boring. MIDA may be a beast now but i have always used it. Even when Thorn was king. Sidearms are now a great secondary too. They sort of bridge the gap between shotguns and fusions. Your KD isnt bad but i was just trying to prove a point. Playing against really good players using the cheapest tactics is quite frustrating. Thorn is the easist fix considering no matter what it will always be somewhat OP due to the DoT.
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Yeah getting killed by the same gun is annoying. I just think an exotic should be an exotic and at the moment there's better legendaries than some of the exotics. I think they should bring most of the exotics up a notch rather than nerf others. Like Plan C, I hadn't used that in months and got it out the other day and my God that's took a beating. My husband has always used MIDA, I don't use it only for the simple fact that the sound of it drives me insane haha!
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I understand that logic and agree to an extent. Many exotics feel exotic without providing any meaningful upgrades over their legendary counterparts. The Skolas weapons are great examples of this. Exotics should feel unique, not fundamentally broken. Thorn is just too damn good right now. I wake up from nightmares of that damn green goop all across your screen.
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Hahaha I think you need a holiday from Destiny haha, although I did wake up the other day telling my hubby that the snipers were out haha!
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How you've been talking though, you fit into that category of people. The only thing I've encountered that was OP is Sunbreaker, pre nerf thorn, vex. Thorn isn't any good in IB or Trials. The problem with bungie is they can't seem to do a slight nerf/buff can they?
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No because i want balance. Right now primaries are in a good place. Every weapon has their range and only some need slight tweaking. The only weapon that continues to break the meta is Thorn. It is hard to balance DoT, not to mention on a primary with damn near unlimited ammo.
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Maybe a good thing to do is limit its ammo then?
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Something. It just has the perfect amount of AA, stability, fire rate, magazine and damage. It makes things like Hawkmoon useless. DoT only on precision hits would a good idea as well.
