[quote]Wish people actually understood this. Feels like we're the only ones. And may I add that if you're standing around for 3 hand cannon shots then you would have died from any of the guns you said. When you have the broken heart buff it is super easy to survive.[/quote] Yep, thorn is in my eyes as balanced as it is ever going to be. And I'm content with that thorn was my first exotic I ever got a week after destiny came out I got the bounty for it and it has been with me ever since I never dismantled it or nothing. The thorn sitting in my warlock inventory is that same thorn today. But it does have its flaws as stated above. Glad to see another person who understands this.