You all think thorn is OP. I remember when it was the worst gun in the game: Slowest RoF Slowest reload speed (even with an armor piece to buff reloads for HCs) Lowest range and stability So one morning super early I hear of these exotic shards being introduced and I'm like "hey I have 3 crappy handcannons I can break down." Boom. Three shards. Didn't think twice about it. Later on in the afternoon, the weekly update comes in with patch notes and what do I read "All hand cannons are getting buffed to be in line with pulse and auto rifles, and compete well with scouts". In less than 3 hours the worst gun in the game became the best, and I was stuck trudging through the crucible yet again with Atheons epilogue, my void 77 wizard and corrective measure grinding out the exotic bounty again. It's still all the rage. I get it, and understand why. But you almost never see it, and without the Crimson buff it really isn't OP. (Crimson buff does make it a bit powerful since you can just spam the trigger and instant reload) At the end of the day, it's just another gun you kill with or get killed by.