BUNGiE Staff, (Pete)
I have a simple request. I am bringing this to everyone's attention because it has been a topic of discussion in the past, and it seems as if actual communication is a thing now. I am going to make an ass of myself, and assume that the community overwhelmingly agrees with me. My request is as follows;
[u][b] Address The Loot System[/b][/u]
Many of us are frustrated that progression, as far as light level is concerned, has halted. Compared to being level 29 and reaching the previous max light of 30, being forever 319 is much more frustrating. A year ago there was a single method of achieving max level, and it was pretty much a guarantee that level 30 was achieved when a certain piece of gear dropped. A year ago there was a single layer of RNG with the leveling system. Now you give us the idea that we are capable of achieving that maximum light level via different routes, i.e. sparrow racing, trials, iron banner and what not.
The truth of the matter is these multiple routes of achieving max light level have effectively implemented multiple layers of RNG onto what already existed. This [u]Double RNG System[/u] in which we are rolling for gear and then rolling for the specific light level in addition needs to be addressed. This specific system is preventing the majority of us from hitting max light.
I do the hard raid on a weekly basis. The amount of moldering shards and items of 100% non-useful gear that I received, gear that is lower light than what I currently am, is astonishing. It should not be like this. It is a complete waste of time playing the same old content, over and over, and NEVER getting that ONE piece of gear that we need. The challenge modes were a good attempt at fixing this. However, it seems as if those implemented yet another layer of RNG. I've done the Orxy challenge each time it has been on rotation. I only receive weapons from beating it. The game refuses to give me a helmet. Same with Warpriest and Golgoroth. I only get the weapons from the challenge modes. I am rocking a pretty solid arsenal of 320 weapons, but I sure as hell don't have a 320 ghost despite all of my raid completions, iron banner matches, nightfalls (do those even drop 320 gear [b]LOL[/b]), and 5 trips to the lighthouse in year 2. I don't understand why the loot table can't give us just a little bit of love for being so dedicated and playing the game so much. This shouldn't happen like this. It is discouraging, and makes me feel as if BUNGiE really does not care about the time I spend playing this game. It makes me feel as if BUNGie wants the community to play the game in a manner which is forced upon us, and if we don't like it we can just not play the game anymore since that is really the only other option.
TL;DR
[u]Please address the currently broken loot/light leveling system.[/u]
Edit #1
Pretty much 100% consensus. Progression system is ineffective.
Edit #2
I totally understand the different between 319 and 320 is very miniscule. I doubt that King's Fall, Trials of Osiris, or Iron Banner will be significantly easier just because I am 320. The simple fact of the matter is I have ran all of these events every single time they have come out, and I still haven't reached that maximum level. It gets to the point where loot is making the game worse of an experience than it should be.
Edit #3
I received my 320 ghost from Crimson Doubles. Thank you for that. However, I would prefer if the loot system wasn't broken to the point the development team needs to fork out ghost shells in a newly created reward package to cover up its screw up. Please address the overall system now. The poor drop rates are prevalent in the Iron Banner, any given Crucible mode, Nightfalls, Heroic Strikes, and in King's Fall both normal and Hard. THE ENTIRE LOOT SYSTEM IS FLAWED.
Glad to see we are still trending over almost a month. Let's keep bumping this thread.
Its been [b]an entire month[/b] and no official reply.
[b]This thread is currently the #4 top rated for feedback, and we still can't get an official response [/b]
Cozmo, I have a hard time taking you seriously. You don't address anything at issue. Please address the loot system. Make a statement. Give us statistics. I mean come on. Everyone already knows that the loot with the Crimson Doubles was a joke. THE SAME THING IS OCCURRING EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!! We get responses about petty improvements that will not make any real impact on the game as compared to a revamping of the loot system.
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Self bump. Need to keep this topic trending!
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Bungie said we get smarter system for our loot. I can see how smarter it is. The system calculates what you dont need and gives you lower drops. Drops you dont need. And same exotic while havent got something else. The light level infusion needs a reworking. Bungie was listening at the time of HoW, and since than went against it 360o.
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Thanks Bungie. For nothing. Everyone I know left, I will soon too.
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They could come out with new events every week. If the loot is going to have a 99% chance of being lower light than what we have, nobody is going to care. How have they not fixed this? I used to raid all the time! There is no way I'm grinding a double RNG raid topped off with the weakest and most boring loot ever. I find it hard to believe this isn't how most of us feel and that bungie hasn't realized they wasted a pretty good raid.
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Wow. No reply. Guess the devs can't find this topic in their own app rated in the best category. BTW, I totally agree. I'm losing clan mates left and right because they don't want to play the raid anymore. All we get are items to be dismantled. It's more exciting to get a legendary engram, because at least it might have a useful set of perks. People see exotics drop and go "ugh, stupid 310"
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Bump just because. Address the loot Cozmo. You are an embarrassment if you do not.
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LET US INFUSE ARTIFACTS INTO ANYTHING
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They don't care and never have. It was getting old real fast in September and it's now almost unbearable. I barely log on and am soon reminded why I don't so often... Nothing to do.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/185779233/0/0 day 63, no reply from bungie...
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Perhaps a good idea they could use would be that instead of dropping a specific item at 320 (helm, arm, chest, boots, class item, ghost, artifact, weapon) for the challenge mode, that instead you get one of two usable items which allows you to upgrade an armor piece or weapon to 320 light. This would not only solve the RNG problem with grinding out to get to 320, but would also allow for a greater amount of gear variation, as you could use it on any armor/weapon piece, instead of having to use the raid gear or spend many more hours grinding out gear in the hope that you can infuse a different piece (say you like the look of the vanguard warlock chest) with many armor pieces to get it to 320.
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maybe that's why they fired the CEO...and probably the next CEO too......give it time..
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Bump. I've been stuck in the low 290's for a while now. Got my hunter up to the higher 290's thanks to iron banner. Drop rates/ loot that's usable needs to drop more fricken often. I'm tired of getting 260-280 level gear with 290 characters it's BS
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I am grinding for the imago loop eyasluna and red Spector. I am as of this week something like 200 runs on echo chamber now. Have not seen one drop for my self But every one that has ran it has gotten it muiltiple time as we ground it. While I see a sea of blue engrams. It's honestly has killed my want to play destiny any more because the rewards system is so broken. Had an iron banner match we crushed the other team. We all collectively got nothing on post game rewards nothing in orbit as we head to the next match. Not even the postmaster had anything. This current rng system is disgustingly broken and is a serious downfall to fun in destiny for me.
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I agree. As a solo player, I have two characters who currently sit around 290-296 light. The third just barely hits 301. I have only actually hit max level twice, both in HoW, and that was because I could buy end game gear from vendors, as loot drops were non existent or I couldn't get etheric light.
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Ya screw bunghole
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Constant changing of progression is fuked. I have so much stuff from yr1 that is useless. Materials for uprgrading etc. Ive also been stuck at 300 with all 3 characters for 3 months. I dont get drops anymore. Just garbage I jave to delete. I only get 310 exotics from bosses. Dont have enough to dismantle to upgrade legendaries. Dont want to dismantle my swords but ill have to choose one to keep eventually if I want to have 300 light without a sword equipeed. Unorganized and they pander to the crybabies.
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BUMP THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE PLAGUING THE GAME!
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The frequency or legendary Vanguard and Crucible weapon drops needs to be greatly increased.
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Truth
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BUMP AS -blam!- BUMP THIS SHIT.
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So true... bump.
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Same shitty RNGesus loot drop rate...removed Reforging so grinding is even more difficult. The lucky ones with God rolled guns just stomp in PVP while the rest of us have nothing. At least Reforging leveled the playing field.
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After sinking in countless hours into iron banner this week I agree, all I want is that exclusive iron banner helmet I understand it's rare but after 5 days come on mun, I'm tempted just to leave my character in pvp doing nothing so he gets the rewards same chance as top player anyway...