And this is coming from a guy who stats are mainly shotguns, followed by an auto rifle
Finnal Round is very easy to abuse on a shotgun why? because you reload one SHELL at the time, not a full mag like everyother weapon in the game, whcih makes abusing Final Round VERY easy to do.
I have a party crahser with both final round AND rangefinder. I'm sure if I abuse the FR, I would get hatemail by killing people far away.
So, I think Final Round needs to be removed out of shotguns, and isntead replaced with a new perk, and I don't know what that is.
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Replace it with shot package
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Geez. I've been browsing this forum for 5 mins and so far I've seen: Nerf warlocks Nerf shoulder charge Nerf Mida Nerf fist of havoc Nerf golden gun May as well add shotguns to the list again... Imagine Bungie did nerf that lot. Oh and don't forget to nerf fusion rifles!
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This isn't a common issue only in higher level play
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Since shotties are pretty much a OHK, FR and LitC are only useful for overshields or if your intended is slightly out of range, also anyone who would abuse this is probably running a shottie as a primary and won't waste ammo just for the slim chance of needing the perk. While The abuse of sniper FR made sense, was the nerf only limited to snipers or were HC etc included,anyone?
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ALWAYS! But, don't forget to reload :)
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Edited by slinkyp28: 1/29/2016 4:41:29 PMIf you get rid of the final round. Then the one before that becomes the final round. You'll have to get rid of that. So then the one before becomes the final round. This is repeating so in the end you'll have no rounds so shot gun will be good Get rid of shot guns :). Only joking
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Edited by joey big guns: 1/29/2016 4:07:28 PMWho the hell wants to waste those shots just to get to the last round? such a scrub, go bitch about something that's actually worth whining about. Jeez scrub you have more kills with a shotgun than any primary weapon. Try changing weapons for a change chump. Edit: oh I can read scrubs but who the -blam!- is going to waste their damn time playing like a bitch and reloading one round at a time. That's not how ppl play and thinking ppl play like that is why so many of our weapons are piles of shit. It's useless rants and whine like this crap that bring light things that aren't issues but now that someone has made a big deal about it ppl are going to see and think, " oh i never though about doing that, think I'll try it." Then everyone starts to do it and once again a unnecessary nerf or perk removal is done because ppl want to cry like little girls.
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How about a shotgun that shoots angle farts?
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No. Its situational at best if you are not stomping on noobs.
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I used to have a Party Crasher +1 with field choke, shot package, smallbore, and luck in the chamber. R.I.P. God shotgun
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At this rate, they'll take shotguns out of the game and replace them with friendly, harmless high-fives. I miss my gnasher.
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For my shotguns I prefer Accurized Ballistics Rangefinder Rifled barrel And either replenish (because of defender) Or performance bonus (because who doesn't like more ammo)
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Yeah lets give shotguns 4 CONSECUTIVE NERFS IN A ROW
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Same with LITC. Winning should not be based on RNG
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Only place I can see it being abused is in the invective. Loading all the shotgun shots into the person.
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I would assume most people reload there guns almost instantly after shooting them especially on shotguns.
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No. Only because nobody really abuses final round. It's not like final round on snipers. Of course you would waste sniper bullets for a 1 hit kill but shot guns are basically already a one hit kill so what's the point.
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But if you mess up that shot, you're boned
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You make a good point. Similar exploit for luck in the chamber on shotguns as well. If you shoot the first round and reload chances are the first bullet will still be the lucky bullet. The advantage here is that while is not guaranteed you still have more bullets for it to happen and if you go into a pile of people you can get multi kills instead of one most likely guaranteed kill with final round and then having to reload to fire again.
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Shotgun=not enough range+final round=more balanced
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They still one shot...FR only procs on precision
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It dosent make a big enough difference to be usefull it does not change the range on the shot it still has the same damage fall off it's a perk for pve
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as far as i know... it only works for precision hits man... just like on OG snipers now... and its a good perk... if ya feel the need to abuse it... go for it
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