This is my opinion on a list of everything that's "cheap" within this game.
- Juggernaut
- Shoulder Charge
- Invective
- No Backup Plans
- Pocket Infinity
- Heavy Ammo
- Self Res
- Quick Res Exotics
- Hunters who turn invisible and hard scope lanes and shotgun.
- Sticky nades
- Firebolt nades with Viking funeral + touch of flame.
- The Ram
- conspiracy theory D
This is only my opinion and I think all those are scrubby tactics. Juggernaut cause that's just OP enough said. Being the fastest class with a shield.
Invective cause that fire so fast and has decent range.
Self res because it's annoying. Only annoying in trials or elimination, reason why is the same reason for quick res exotics. Wish there was no such thing as revives in elimination.
Quick res exotics because I feel Trials should be once you die you stay dead. That'll make it a lot more competitive and tactical.
No backup plans because I mean OS off shotgun kills? That just shouldn't be a thing.
Pocket Infinity because it's just broken.
Heavy annoying because it shouldn't be a thing in 3v3 playlists.
Juggernaut because being the fastest class running around with a shotty and shield is cheap.
So that's my opinion.
Edit: Funny how most guardians who disagree with me are the ones with low medal score. They don't even crucible.
Edit 2: I'm not asking for nerfs or buffs. I don't even think I said the word nerf once. I'm just saying in my opinion, these tactics are cheap and I will bag and dance on your body once I kill you. And laugh at you with my friends because those tactics are frowned upon. When I play I don't wear exotics, I don't use heavy, I don't use self res, any Titan ability cause I deleted it due to no time for another class. So I expect others to do the same, if I wave heavy and you pick it up I'll bag you until you quit. If you skate around with juggernaut I will bag you until you quit, that's if I can kill you, since it's so hard to counter, especially with a weak hunter.
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Don't play
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You forgot to mention poison smoke + vortex lol
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Don't worry guys its a hunter main
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I have a fairly modest medal score, or so I believe, and I care to disagree with practically your entire list. Ill go in detail below. [quote] - Juggernaut - Shoulder Charge - Invective - No Backup Plans - Pocket Infinity - Heavy Ammo - Self Res - Quick Res Exotics - Mida Multi Tool - Hunters who turn invisible and hard scope lanes and shotgun. [/quote] 1 and 2.) Strikers specifically spec for this. They lose the ability to tank golden gun shots and hit max armor without it. Even more so, you need to be running this to matter, same with shoulder charge. They are both easy to deal with and leave striker weaker during his super. 3.) Its an exotic. Its ment to be powerful. Get over it. Many shotguns outclassed this one by miles anyway. 4.) You have got to be shitting me. Its an overshield that is slightly better than flame shield. It also requires heavy CQC play. In the current meta, CQC doesn't work so well. 5.) It burns through ammo like a mother -blam!-er. Fusion rifles in general are weak.pop Those two things are huge downfalls. 6.) Heavy ammo is a tide turner. In 3v3 you need to work as a team. Securing heavy ammo is fairly easy. If they are dominating you that badly that they pull double heavy.. they were already going to win anyway. If you pull it equally, its not unbalanced as you [b]both[/b] have it. The team who plays the heavy round better will win. Simple as that. 7.) Self res is a perk. Its easy to shut down and very predictable. I would rather this then their tanky -blam!- your entire team version of Radiance. 8.) Waste of an exotic. If they choose to waste it on that, fine. If you're such a good player and can't deal with the enemie's teammates being picked up a second faster, thats your problem. 9+10.) These are both fine. If you think they're annoying, so be it. They are not broken in the slightest.
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Edited by CapnMark: 1/29/2016 10:28:45 PMFusion grenades are really cheap. Cant use a gun but they can sure throw a curve ball. Must have played for the NBA. Just a pun.
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>Read thread >Expect hunter main >Verify hunter main >Leave thread unsurprised
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"It killed me therefore it's cheap!"
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Bullets, Rockets, Armor, Air, Subclasses,classes, races, the loading screen.
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Pocket infinity? Broken? Should have seen it when the game first came out.
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Hunters.
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Life ain't fair.
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How about the 1000 ys you're using
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I'm already through with all this, "cheap tactics" nonsense, its in the game, I will use it, but I like my Finnala's peril hc, mini Scout with high impact.
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Edited by Walshie Nightly : 1/29/2016 9:59:07 PMThe majority of that list I find annoying not necessarily cheap. Heavy ammo as it stands right now is complete and utter overkill. Ohk grenades supers and special weapons then we blow all that out of the water with tracking rockets (truth is cheap as f) and corner crouching heavy machine guns. Curving fusion grenades are next on my list of super annoying things. Take off the magnetism holy hell. Losing a gun fight when your ahead to an rng bullet that does like 150 damage (Hawkmoon) I'm talking to you. Panic supers when you clearly out play the person and they're about to die really get under my skin. Fire bolts are kind of annoying but for some reason they don't bother me too bad. If there's like 3 Sunsingers on a team then super annoying. But 1-2 I'm able to live with. However I feel the same about a team of all golden gun hunters or night stalker wombo combos. Just my opinion.
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Titan skating. Like here is the supposedly slowest class but oh wait if they do a slight janky jump with better control they are capable of passing a hunter specializing in agility...
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Touch of flame
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Cheap, but fair.
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Wait wait wait, an OS from a shotgun KILL is bad but getting an OS from hitting someone from beyond shotgun range, and not even having to kill them isn't scrubby? Stay classy destiny
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I can see the reason behind everything except for the NBP. That's quite literally the only decent defender specific exotic for the crucible...
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Edited by Tesshu_Yamaoka: 1/29/2016 9:50:43 PMOh, you forgot another one: Party Crasher
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You forgot one: Thorn
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But you have a low medal score :/
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You've listed you're opinion on faults with the 'game' and given you're reasoning, however you've only done so in the context of PvP how do any of them function as cheap tactics in PvE?
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Chopping up a full game so you can charge double the price for it.
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Smoke-vortex nade combo
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None of them are a problem in Crucible or are OP in the Slightest! What game are you playing??? The only things that are OP are pretty much every Legendary Shotgun in the game other than Immobious... Conspiracy Theory D is the most broken shotgun there is! It's ridiculous!!! Worse than Felwinters Lie IMO!!! And make Invective, Chaperone and 4th Horseman look paltry in comparison! Which is an Utter Joke!