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1/27/2016 12:55:22 PM
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[quote] As a result, wealthy guardians leave the tower, swear their allegiance to the Queen, and move to Reef (taking their exotics, strange coins, and possessions with them).[/quote]
lmao remember when republicans argued that passing Obamacare would cause all of our best medical professionals to leave the country? And also do you remember when nothing even close to that actually happened?! hahahahaha add a slippery slope fallacy to your list of reasons why your cognitive capacities should be doubted
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There is no slippery slope fallacy here, as a result of Obamacare more doctors now offer patients treatment for a discounted rate if they pay cash, they prefer it that way instead of dealing with all the forms and regulatory work they'd have to deal with if they went through Obamacare. Also to think a description in destiny terms will be 100% accurate is naive
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What you said has no relevance to the original topic. Doctors modifying their payment structure is not at all the same thing as leaving the country. And an argument by analogy only works if the analogy is a strong one. This particular analogy is weak because the author failed to distinguish between personal property and the public economy. Considering that the author is arguing in favor of a libertarian candidate, and the concept of personal property is a core tenet of libertarianism, the author has shown that not only was the analogy doomed to fail, but also that he doesn't even understand his own candidate's political ideology. It is simply a smear of Bernie Sanders by way of ad hominem.
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Did Oboma care go into effect? Why am I still paying over $1,000 dollars a month for insurance and owe the hospitals thousands more? Obomacare did not fix anything. My friend who does not have insurance is not going to file his taxes this year because he can not afford the health care tax for not being able to afford health care. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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Did you enroll in a plan at the marketplace? Or do you receive insurance through your employer?
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I have insurance through the employer. There is a ton of miss information about the program. I believe some states opted out on it. I may be in one of those states.
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Well, no one is going into primary care anymore, so... Why would anyone spend 8 years in school to go into primary care and earn $90-100k when they can spend the same amount of time to become a specialist and make $250k +...
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Not everyone is good enough to become a specialist. Being a specialist is actually a lot more work than being a general family care physician. All they do is dish out antibiotics or refer to a specialist for the really serious problems. And do you have any source that you can cite about doctors not going into family care?
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Also, there is a problem with who qualifies. I have a coworker that has a wife and child. He makes $8 and hr. and works 30 hrs. a week. He doesn't make enough money to qualify for health care subsidy and he doesn't get enough hours to get our health care. As a result he will have to pay a fine for nearly 600 per person in his family, 1800, because they are uninsured. He CANNOT AFFORD IT. This is who Healthcare laws were made for. The system is broken. Many who get subsidies now, we're already paying for insurance before and just used the Healthcare marketplace to get a subsidy and save money. The program targeted the wrong people and it's sad. Another thing. Healthcare premiums have gone up, subsidies cover it if you're using it, but these companies are richer than ever because they take advantage of a government program. See, not just poor "lazy" people do that. Obama care is a joke and smoke screen to move money. We still aren't providing anything to help the poor move up in society and get our of their perpetual hole. And NO, socials isn't the answer...but a better education system is, we rank 27 in the world now. We won't recover properly until more Americans have degrees they can afford and use their new knowledge to make our country what it once was. The focus is all wrong by most candidates, as usual.
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People who "don't make enough money" all qualify for Medicare expansion, which is literally free health care. If that doesn't apply in your state, that's because your governor declined the Medicare expansion, like mine did in Oklahoma. So that's where you should place your blame.
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Fair enough, I am in Texas, our government here hates Obama. That could actually be part of the problem though. A law was passed, forcibly, know it would hurt some people that it was meant to help. The program itself is broken as a result. Several states have declined to even allow health care market places all together. I do see your point though.
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States have done that out of spite for President Obama and to make their constituents think they're "being tough on the feds" or some stupid bullsh*t like that. Don't conflate the reasons.
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Not complicating the issue, it was passed forcibly, and states have rights too. Whether we agree or not, concensus should have be reached to pass such comprehensive and expensive legislation. Both side made dumb arguments and failed to stick to what is important in regards to healthcare. Our country should lead the world in health services, we don't. Not reaching an agreement is why.
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First of all, it's "forcefully". Second of all, federal law supercedes state law. The ACA was passed at the federal level, therefore it dictates how state law should be formed. A majority of congress, regardless of which way they sway, approved the law, and it was signed into law, ok? And yes, our healthcare was ranked 39th in the world at one point. And the ACA was passed in order to start improving on that ranking, ok? Eventually, we'll make it to single-payer healthcare and will be on par with other countries.
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Bernie? Is that you? I didn't know you played Destiny. That's cool man. Hey, saying "ok" a lot has to go, it's annoying. And yes forcibly, no physical force was not used, but throwing around the wait of executive office and signing executive orders to get a bill to the floor in such a was as it was is forcible. Winds are forceful, this was akin to a playground bully. Now that being said, I agree that we need a subsidized health care program. I don't think the one we have now works properly and needs to be changed. Single payer isn't the answer either though. It gives the government exclusive rights to dictate your healthcare, doctor wages, what can be covered and what cannot. It's a scary proposition. Medicare already has too much power in dictating the coverage people can get. Sometimes, if you don't have the cash, you are going to die. My wife works in a hospital and it's the one thing that frustrates her more than anything. If medicare doesn't agree with it, treatment isn't covered. And even private insurance will follow suit in many cases. We need more inclusive coverages. Yes some cases are a lost cause, that's not what I am talking about.
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Proof, please.
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Well... You can google primary care physician shortage and read any of the literally thousands of articles written on the subject...
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If what you say is true, how is that the ACA's fault?
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Edited by Smith5084: 1/27/2016 1:34:14 PMIt's honestly more to do with Medicare and Medicaid payments than it does the ACA, but the huge expansion of who was eligible for Medicaid has only made the problem worse.
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So, tell me this, if you have option A, to make $100,000, versus option B, to make more as a specialist, what do you choose? My friend went into gastroenterology, not because he would make less otherwise, but because that work interests him. And he very strongly supports the Affordable Care Act, so much so that he has actually gone to DC and lobbied for it. So he doesn't fit your assumption in the least bit.
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No, particular state governors declining Medicare expansion in their state is the problem. If that expansion had occurred in every state as planned, literally everyone who has too low of an income to afford insurance would be on Medicare.
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They just all happened to be Republican... :/
